Josh Wolff = Awful Penalty Taker

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  1. SamPierron

    SamPierron BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 30, 1998
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, let me note that I haven't controlled this for the keepers on the other end of the kicks, and, obviously, it isn't a large sample size.

    That said...

    Since 2003:

    Name Made Attempted Conversion Rate
    ----------------------------------------------
    Wolff 4 7 57.1%
    Ruiz 12 15 80.0%
    Kreis 4 5 80.0%
    Guevara 13 15 86.7%
    Donovan 5 6 83.3%
    Razov 6 9 66.7%
    Moreno 11 12 91.7%
    ---------------------------------------------
    Twellman 0 2 0.0%
    Joseph 2 2 100.0%
    Cancela 3 4 75.0%
    Ralston 4 4 100.0%


    I include the NE players because Twellman took two, showed he wasn't particularly good at it, and Nicol went with other players.
     
  2. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    I can't remember Josh looking confident taking any shot during the run of play or otherwise since about October of last year.
     
  3. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are two things combined that are valued when looking for a Penalty taker: Reasonable pace and Reasonable precision. Although those two aspects may somewhat describe Josh's game by no means has it ever, never described his shooting; especially from a dead ball scenario.
     
  4. The Blind Pig

    The Blind Pig Member

    Jul 14, 2005
    Section 8
    i will admit to seeing him score a great goal or two on a free kick with the fire
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    How ironic (tragic?) is it that the only post-season goal of his career was a penalty kick?

    Which of course brings up the whole - why doesn't Josh score in the playoffs question.

    1. Doesn't score in the big games
    2. Marginal penalty taker

    Sounds like Mia Hamm.
     
  6. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas
    Except Josh never dated Kerry Zavagnin. :D
     
  7. KCRovert

    KCRovert BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 17, 2004
    Overland Park
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As far as we know.
     
  8. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't it a PK that Josh scored against Scotland? Or Jamaica last year, or somebody?

    Tell me I'm not dreaming, since I'm too lazy to go to ussoccer.com and look it up.
     
  9. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Yes. He made one away at Scotland. I think it's his only goal for the US in awhile. He also didn't earn that PK. I think it was Beasley?

    I've never liked it when the guy who gets fouled takes the PK, but you knew Josh was going to take that one.
     
  10. andrewt14

    andrewt14 Member

    Jul 25, 2000
    Atlanta
    you are correct, sir...scotland

    he did play the pass to beasley
     
  11. misterbean17

    misterbean17 New Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    Fayetteville, NC
    Who would take his place?

    EJ?
    Jewsbury?
    Burciaga?
     
  12. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    while jose has power, would he have the accuracy on those?

    I say EJ or Jack, possibly even Davy.
     
  13. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dave VanDenBergh
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Rule #1: Don't let the Dutch take penalty kicks!
     
  15. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You know who I think would be good at PKs? Groenwald. Was an attacker in college and seems pretty precise with his foot. I bet he'd make a pretty good PKer.
     
  16. Redfoot

    Redfoot New Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll never find out though the one starting rookie on the team won't ever get a chance to come near a pk.

    Honestly I don't care who takes them as long as they end up in the back of the net.
     
  17. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    We could always let Garcia do it so he'd eventually get his first goal. :p
     
  18. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only way I see that is if we are already up 4-0 or something like that. And then I doubt we would get a PK in a game like that.
     
  19. they have teeth

    they have teeth New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    watson, i dont believe, ever missed a pk in college....or in highschool for that matter. i just want to see him on the field for now though, which wont happen unless the wizards are behind.
     
  20. Uppa 90

    Uppa 90 Member

    Jan 16, 2004
    K.C. MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: EJ = Awful Penalty Taker

    i believe we get to bump this back up and adjust the title?
     
  21. the_cyclones

    the_cyclones New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    The Cauldron
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    horrible PK attempt by Eddie.
     
  22. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That was a horrible penalty kick. The only way he gets that goal is if Thornton just completely guesses the wrong direction. Our followup after Thornton deflected it out was terrible. The least somebody could have done was knock that loose ball in.
     
  23. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas
    I thought the follow up was fine. Nicky Garcia took a good shot. Thornton just made an incredible save.
     
  24. KChaz

    KChaz New Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Kansas City
    Maybe EJ was just trying to make Josh look like a good PK taker. There is no way EJ should take another one.

    Also watching the game back today Nick's follow-up was pounded on net. It was just another great save.
     
  25. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    I said it during the game and after: Let Nick take the next PK. As hard as he's hitting the ball and as bad as he wants a goal the ball would go through the goalie if he got a hand on it.
    And I'm not joking, I say let him take the next one. Him or Jewsbury.
     

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