Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Monchengladbach

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  1. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    FYP
     
  2. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    at the end he’s right and after such a lousy season who wouldn’t want to leave?
    also understandable that he wants to explore a new soccer-culture (a better club, of course, is not an option because Gladbach undoubtedly is the best)
    but as far as I know EPL-clubs are interested in Americans who know how to play ball and he surely will be able to get a better contract over there (and he also can stop trying to speak German ;-)
    and with his contract expiring next summer and Gladbach’s need to cash in it’s doubtful that a transfer in line with the market would become a problem

    meanwhile the new director is on fire and cleaning up the roster and filling the gaps for the upcoming mind- and heartbreaking ‚style‘ of 26/27
    newly signed (one of already 5) is Konoplia, an Ukrainian international and a right back... which means the club is prepared if Joe should leave and if not: the stage is set for „Konkurrenzkampf“ (competition)

    what’s up next season? there is hope, finally
    back five is history and the coach will also be if he isn’t able to establish a more proactive, offensive soccer pretty fast... that was more or less announced freely and frankly
    not an impossible task for Polanski as a) Gladbach’s two most valuable offensive assets, Hack and Kleindienst, (hopefully) will be back b) a very promising looking Swede joined months ago and c) Mohya’s market value of 17M is expected to come alive… and then there is Reyna who in our boldest dreams could act as the puppetmaster for the receivers and the mastermind of an offensive setting which has chances to be sharp instead of blunt like an oxen’s arse

    over here everybody hopes that Joe and Gio are leaving their mark on the WC, would be good for them and the club in every respect (well it's not that i'm raising stars and stripes at my house but I might even watch them play... although I lost interest in the FIFA-festival long ago)
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    In other words, he should leave? ;);)
     
  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I fully agree but unless he's incredibly dumb, Scally made that "come and get me" comment because he wanted the market to know that he's available.

    I'd imagine clubs have made contact with his agent by now. Whether they're good enough for Scally or Gladbach is another story
     
  5. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    yep, definitely
    skipped into the Germany-match when I saw that the two Borussen came in and it was obvious to me that Scally is more than just willing to use the WC as a showcase
    (and it also was obvious that - with these ugly nineties kits and Nagelsmann's intolerable cap which made him look like a jolly biergarten-supporter who is proudly wearing the WC-gift from the local discounter - Germany will not sparkle at all overseas... but that's off-topic)

    if Scally should leave this summer?
    from my point of view? no!
    from his point of view, assumed that it's time for him to explore new lands? definitely yes!
    from a purely sporting point of view? depends on who's getting interested and how Scally is evaluating Gladbach's future (there is no money but Schröder is heavyweight in comparison to his flyweight predecessor and next season's team will show a totally different attitude, I'm sure about that)

    from the club's point of view?
    maybe Schröder (like with other players) is heavily hitting on the signal key (one of Gladbach's many unique features of the last years was that everything was built on harmony, serenity, comfort and avoiding internal conflicts... that has changed!)
    which could mean: Joe, if you wanna stay we'll talk t-h-i-s summer, if not you better leave t-h-i-s summer and if you want to explore the option of becoming a free agent... better do not, because you'll be a spectator not a starter most of the time
    or maybe in this case there is no signalling at all because Borussia and the Scally-team are in total harmony because the already came to the mutual agreement that there will be a move t-h-i-s- summer no matter what
     
  6. McKenniesWeah

    McKenniesWeah Member

    New England
    United States
    Feb 12, 2024
    He’s had the strangest development. Many young players at his age have difficulty developing due to injuries (eg. Parades), or just don’t develop (KLDF), or take off (Pulisic, Adams, McKennie).

    Scally is somewhere inbetween all of them in that he’s developed enough to still get minutes for a club that’s been down in performance the last few years, but not good enough to be seen as a strong prospect by better clubs.
     
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  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Part of it is that he’s sort of an odd player - a defense-first wing back without any outstanding physical or technical attributes, but also without any glaring deficiencies.

    I see him as a system player, which means there aren’t a lot of teams out there looking for a player with his profile. I think that’s also a big reason he’s had a hard time breaking in with the US - he’s good, but not good enough to reconfigure your whole team around.
     
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  8. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Who reconfigures their whole team around a fullback? Or even a great wing back?
     
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  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The US has done that to accommodate Dest and, to a lesser extent, Robinson.

    Liverpool played completely different with TAA versus their gang of misfits at RB this season, Arsenal’s system is dependent on two-footed fullbacks playing in midfield half the time. It’s not that unusual.

    But the larger point is that a defensive wingback is an infrequently-used role, so the number of possible destinations for him where he’d be used in his best capacity is really limited.
     
  10. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Neither example is reconfiguring a whole team. The Liverpool example is especially bad because of how much the team changed as a whole. But to your greater point, I can agree that his opportunities will be limited for what he brings (although I don't think wingback is an infrequently used role). But maybe by defensive wingback you mean a traditional fullback?
     

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