Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Monchengladbach

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  1. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    What's there to get? Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Mönchengladbach

    Umlaut yours! Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Mönchengladbach
     
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  2. Pemulis

    Pemulis Member

    Jul 10, 2024
    Genau
     
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  3. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    mehr als genug
     
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  4. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ok, this makes a lot of sense,.....i dont actually watch gladbach games so this fills in a bit

    i remember when i first saw scally, his offensive prowess is what stood out....solid with the ball and passing

    but somewhere along the line, he became a defensive specialist who doesnt do anything of note with the ball. i see that it is as a result of the coaching scheme (which kinda sucks from a scally development angle)

    its great he has gotten so much playing time at such a young age but he needs the chance to become a well-rounded player...not just a defensive stopper if he wants to reach his potential

    might seem nitpicky to complain about such a thing, considering the amount of minutes he has already gotten at such a young age, esp for an american ....

    but the thing is thats what is needed to actually get to the top of the game. the margins are hard

    hopefully this season we will see scally get out of his shell a bit more offensively bc i strongly believe he has it in him to contribute to the attack
     
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  5. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Friendly against Schalke as our shadow national team takes on Schalke. Scally starts, as does GIO. Here we go...
     
  6. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scally received treatment on the field and was subbed out in 18'
     
  7. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    right upper leg; Scally had no "oh my god"-look so I hope it's not really 'serious'


    Seoane this week:
    "Kevin [Diks] now has a competitor at the CB-position with Fabio [Chiarodia] who is extremely close. On the far right Kevin gives us a different variant in playmaking. But Joe in turn is very robust and difficult to play in one-on-one."
     
  8. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    back in slightly shortened training (seemed to be a minor hip problem)
     
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  9. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    It was probably for the best that he was not involved in the last loss. I had to find this thread to see if their was a reason he did not play.
     
  10. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    wingback Scally was on fire, not everything went well (could have scored in 40th and should have in 77th) but overall a very good match with some new facets of him... maybe the start of something new? liked it when he got angry...
     
  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    naturlich
     
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  12. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    Didn't see the whole match, but I those who think he doesn't go forward enough and doesn't have enough of an attacking mentality, etc., really needed to see the game last night.
     
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  13. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like he got the message from Poch. Now he's playing more offensive, showing that he too has speed and playing hard enough to get angry. Should have been doing this for years but instructions may have hindered and he needed a nudge. be very interesting if he keeps it up and gets an October surprise.
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Wingback on Fire! Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Mönchengladbach
     
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  15. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Prussian Hot Wings! Joseph "Joe" Scally at Borussia Mönchengladbach

    Okay, maybe that's not a thing. :D

    You know what is a thing? Joe Scally trucking up and down the sideline. I am still so impressed with his game this past weekend. It wasn't just the blistering pace and non-stop effort, it was how dangerous he was offensively too.
     
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  16. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    "instructions" definitely: against B04 he was a wingback with a back three behind him (and the right C, Diks, was a fullback most of his life)
    Seitenwahl: "This position suits Scally very well. He was seen up front more often than usual and he had arguably the two best chances where he essentially did everything right [to get there]. At most one could say he lacked shrewdness [or composure?] in front of goal."

    but Scally's workload on sunday was quite exhausting (at his first chance he received a deep pass inside-left!): question is if this will be possible each week (and of course: if he keeps 'wingbacking' at all; Polanski likes to change formations)

    Torfabrik: "Joe Scally was very active on the right wing, completing the back five when the opposition had the ball and constantly pushing forward in possession. He almost forced Vasquez into an own goal with a sharp cross and later he had a good chance after a pass from Castrop but Flekken tipped Scally's left-footed shot around the post. Shortly after the break the American picked up a yellow card for a scuffle with Ben Seghir. The 22-year-old remained dedicated and stood his ground even when his strength visibly waned. In the 77th he beat Grimaldo with astonishing pace but then wasn't able to beat Flekken at the near post."
    by they way: Grimaldo is one of the best players in the league which didn't show on sunday...
     
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  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he's had to hide this side of himself for years because of coaching instructions it's almost criminal. I do wonder if a kid getting called up over him for doing things he's able to do but hasn't in a while caused a breakthrough. He's not a young kid anymore he's a veteran. Could even be having Reyna there who could have asked him things nudged him more. I hope he also nudges Reyna. They could really help each other get back to the best versions of themselves.
     
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  18. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2143 adam tash, Sep 23, 2025
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    i mean, I dont watch gladbach matches so I cant say ...but my first impression of him when he first started in the bundesliga several years ago what struck my was his ability on the ball in tight spaces, to even dribble and progress the ball and contribute to the attack....to be a true 2 way defender, which was exciting, especially at a young age....you dont often see that from american defenders...tenacious d and good offnesive ability.

    i think he was a victim of the fact that he was surrounded by a veteran squad that didnt really need him on offense and the coach wanted him to be focused on defending, limiting his game and preventing development and not allowing him to showcase his game...but bc it was the bundesliga he was willing to go along with it. (and it was the same under ggg, who wanted his right back to stay home so jedi could bomb up and down the wing - stupidly, imo)

    now that glabach has lost players and the national team wants attacking wingbacks....voila.....scally is playing offense again
     
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  19. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member+

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    At the youth-teams it’s about developing players not about results. In the (sadly) ephemeral Bundesliga-Biz however coaches just fight for survival. They seldomly think longterm and usually do what they think is currently best for the team and of course what makes themselves look good/safe in the public/clubs’s eye. I wouldn’t call this ‚criminal‘. It’s just pragmatic.

    Some have an ‚idea‘ of soccer and tend to just ‚fit‘ the players into ‚their‘ idea.
    Seoane, simplified: he nearly always used the the same formation 4-2-3-1, with the same players (that was part of making Joe a ‚veteran‘ though), substituted the same players strictly acc. to position (and this usually even at the same stage of a match!)... which made Gladbach not only boring it made the team totally predictable (and sometimes it looked that it also made the players sleepy).

    But if a player feels totally misused he often strives for a transfer. Never heard Scally did this. And it’s not that he had to live in disguise and hide his true identity. He was involved in several attacks but I remember none of us wannabe-experts over here to look at Scally as a winger with big offensive skills (instead some considered wether or not Scally’s future could be the CB position). Crossballs often weren’t on point. He often aborted and played the safe ball backwards. Some tactical wrong moves. (Certainly some of this due to instructions and due to the fact that the team didn’t gel well. Often one or two player(s) pressed while the others took their midafternoon nap).

    Now we have a different spin, Joe can prove us all wrong and already started to do so:
    Director of sports: "We played with a triple chain at the back. Then as a right wingback you naturally have a protection in your back and you can then act more courageously, so Joe was able to march forward. He played a very good game. With a chain of four you play man-to-man in defence and it’s more difficult to set such accents."

    Polanski (I assume) is one of these coaches who doesn’t have a problem to change players and/or formation from matchday to matchday no matter if the last match was a win or not and no matter if a player has performed well.
    So at the end this could mean that Scally gets less playing time (maybe a shared job with Honorat depending on the opponent) but also a coach who is teasing more facets out of him.
    At the moment all of this is completely open, we don’t even know if Polanski stays (I bet he does).

    I’m still enthusiastic about Scally’s match but here I am, gently tipping on the breakthrough-euphoria brake:
    One swallow doesn’t make a summer. (New) Formation isn’t cut in stone. Next match will be tough. Someday Honorat is coming back. Life is no holiday ;-).

    I totally agree with your Reyna-part and sorry for the length...
     
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  20. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicker gave Scally an average rating of 3.5 (1 is best, 6 is worst) for last week’s game against Leverkusen. Tillman’s goal wasn’t enough to get him up to average as he got a 4.0.
     
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  21. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicker hates Americans. Ahh, it's good to be following the Bund again . . .
     
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  22. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicker ratings are only as accurate as the extent to which they match my opinions.
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Thing is, Scally was pretty stay-at-home for US as well. (Not to turn this into a US thread, just pointing out it's likely not "just" his German coaching.) Didn't see this game, but if he picks up his attacking effectiveness, he's a way more useful player. Up till now he's felt more like guy you keep in the back when you slide into a 3 and have the opposite FB overlap. He always "can" get forward, just never seemed overly confident or dangerous.
     
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  24. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can we not do kicker ratings again?
     
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  25. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, but what fun we would miss!!
     

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