Jose Holebas @ 1860 Munich

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  2. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This one's a stretch-- can he qualify for US citizenship? Was his mother a citizen or daughter of a citizen?
     
  3. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If his mom's eligible, I feel like he would be eligible too--provided that she actually went ahead and got hers first. I'm not sure, though--you see cases like this more often in countries where citizenship is conceived primarily through bloodlines (Germany, Italy, for example).
     
  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    If his mom was a citizen when he was born, then he's one too, right? (Or, I guess, if she became one before he was 18?) Of course, there's probably no way of finding this out without firsthand info -- I doubt these details are reported anywhere.

    I'll poke around a bit. And maybe someone else, like U.S. Soccer or a soccer journalist, will look into it too.
     
  5. Jacques Strappe

    Mar 24, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    If only someone at 1860 was vaguely connected to U.S. Soccer... Ah well.
     
  7. Hyuuga Neji

    Hyuuga Neji Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    The Bay Area
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    But it's pronounced Zho-zeh ... very French ... or Chinese.
     
  9. SeaOtter

    SeaOtter Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that Kaiser Zho-zeh???:D

    Know that was a stretch, but just had to go there.
     
  10. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    It would be nice to have any confirmation. He has been converted to LB this season and is being observed by Bundesliga, Specifially Mainz 05 and Nurnberg FC.
     
  11. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I saw a few of his matches ... in the NFL parlance, he is "just a guy".
     
  12. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What would you call Bornstein and Heath Pearce? ;)

    LB = Cap him now!! :D
     
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Just a really, really, really fast guy? (who can kill you with brain farts)

    Really, the guys to try to get are Fabian Johnson and Daniel Williams.
     
    Gorky repped this.
  14. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Dave M-N is the man, that is all. Where do you get this information Dave? unbelievable
     
  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Holebas has moved to Olympiakos.
     
  16. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    And Ewald Lienen got canned.
     
  17. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    So he's at the top club in Greece, and plays LB...

    What am I missing other than our confusion as to whether he can get his citizenship. Surely we can at least get a look at the guy.
     
  18. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    A good kid who sounds like he would chose Greece first.
     
  19. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    quite the jump from B2 up to a huge club like that
     
  20. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Yeah no kidding, Dave did you ever figure out the eligibility with this kid or what? He's still pretty young and I mean, Olympiakos is a good side if he started getting minutes.
     
  21. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Well, of all the foreign-born players I have on my list this is probably the one I'm least sure about.

    A 2008 (German) article said his father was Greek and his mother German-American. That's what inspired the original post.

    But Wiki says he's Greek-Uruguayan. Other web posts seem to indicate that his mom may be German-Uruguayan. Olympiakos doesn't say.

    It's possible that the writer of the 2008 article essentially heard "South American" and heard "American" more or less.

    Anyway, I'm thinking I may pull him back to the "not sure" list until someone can set me straight.
     
  22. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I sent him a message on facebook inquiring about his heritage, we'll see if he responds.
     
  23. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In order to have a picture in this thread, this is him (#14) playing for 1860 last August against Paderborn in the first round of cup play

    [​IMG]
     
  24. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Still no response to my stalker...i mean facebook message.
     
  25. LiverAndPineapple

    May 7, 2008
    I'm considering not even posting in the same threads as you anymore...you're that creepy.
     

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