John Doyle Redundancy Count

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by hannah8, Apr 13, 2003.

  1. hannah8

    hannah8 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    vs Colo 4/12

    "Absolutely" (13)
    "Terrific" (7)
     
  2. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    like, it could so like be worse, and like, he could like say like, like a lot, and like, that, like, is so like irritating; like you know what i mean?
     
  3. fuzzyBunny

    fuzzyBunny Member

    Aug 24, 1999
    Palo Alto CA
    I believe one of those "Absolutely"s should only count as a half. He started with Abso..... then he got cut off with Shradder's call.

    I was tracking the "Absolutely"s too but I lost count.
     
  4. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Not to mention the fact that he called Ching, Chung.Twice! And who is "Brian" Dunivant? Good Lord:rolleyes:
     
  5. doppelganger

    doppelganger Member

    Jul 6, 2001
    santa cruz, ca
    absolutely....

    maybe Club Quake members can all pitch in and buy the man a thesaurus....

    but he can say it all he wants as long as the Quakes win....
     
  6. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That gets my vote!
     
  7. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LDB, where's my nomination for color commentator?
     
  8. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca

    Ching, Chung, Donovan, Dunivant......I don't blame him, I thought Landon had his first goal of the season til I saw the replay......Dunivant....not Donovan! :D
     
  9. tedwar

    tedwar Member

    Jun 24, 1999
    Richmond, CA-EastBay
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doyle is too much of a gentleman to ever criticize a Quake, esp a defender, but he came pretty close when Waibel tackled Roberts near midfield.

    I'm interested in how people who listened to match on KNEW thought Shrader and Doyle did.

    Even from a tv perspective, they didn't provide enough information, I thought, and were caught surprised by the Ekelund for Donovan sub. There was too much dead air, where we could see what was happening on tv, but if you were listening on the radio, who knew what was happening?

    The interview with Yallop seemed to come as a surprise also, altho I imagine the guys knew it was a bad time for FY after the Rapids had just scored.

    But, those are little faults that I imagine will be corrected.

    Lynn M did two things right: she changed the name of the franchise and she had ALL the matches on tv. This is not a criticism of Mr. Moore, but at the very least, all the road matches need to be on tv, even if its tape delay.

    Tony
     
  10. mike mcclellan

    mike mcclellan New Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    San Jose
    The one that gets on my nerves is his go-to line, the not-so-sparingly used: "It's good to see <fill in the blank>"

    "It's good to see Richard chasing the ball."
    "It's good to see Manny tied his shoes."
    "It's good to see blah blah blah blah."
     
  11. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I especially liked his comment on a tackle from one of Quakes. He kind of poo-poo the Quake for having one of his cleats up. This is coming from an ex-player who defined the two cleats-up tackle! I thought he would break someones ankle or get a red card everytime.

    To his credit, at least he actually said something bad about a Quake...
     
  12. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shrader was off. It was the first game of the season, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He needs to a few practice sessions in though. Anybody know a U-8 girls tourney he can do the play by play for?
     
  13. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the Quakes staff is paying too much attention to the advice of that dinosaur, Bridgewater, who is the one who adamantly stated (at least at the 2001 chalk talk at the Cupertino Brit) that games (or at least the home games, which I think is also a big mistake) must not be on TV. I think they should all be televised (en vivo).
     
  14. mike mcclellan

    mike mcclellan New Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    San Jose
    Not that he's the best source on how to market the league, but I ran into Ty Keough at the airport after the Allstar game. He mentioned that contrary to what you might think, in every market where they televise home games, attendance has risen.

    Especially with the entertaining brand of soccer the past two seasons, if you show it they will come. I used to go to both Quakes and Cyber Rays games, but found the level of soccer in the WUSA just can't compare with MLS. Towards the end of last season, I would watch a C-Rays game if it happened to be on, but it wasn't something I set my calendar by. Whether or not their home games were televised locally made no difference. I think most true soccer fans are still going to come. The fans that watch every game on tv can't be convinced to get out of their barcaloungers, anyway. Televising local games can be a great way to attract fans that haven't been exposed to this exciting team and the improving quality of the league.
     
  15. yalpstel

    yalpstel Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing to do with the game itself but maybe an attempt to put a little personality into the broadcast...I didn't like Doyle's non-response to Shrader's "twins" observations. Even though I couldn't see his face, I'll betcha Doyle was rolling his eyes at Shrader.

    I thought the "twins" observation was endearing.

    It also bugged me that Ching was called Chung. JD reminds me of a stereotypical "dumb blonde." Like, totally!
     
  16. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is exactly what I think. We have discussed this a number of times on these boards; one side is (for the lack of a better name) the "Bridgewater" school which says that home games should not be televised because that cuts down on attendance (you could also call them the NFL group that doesn't allow a game to be televised until they have a certain attendance figure). The other side, which I will call the "Noah Elliott" side says that televising local games actually increases attendance, just as you are saying. Bridgewater ensconced himself as some kind of consultant a couple of years ago (about the same time that Frank came on board) and I think his views still hold sway over the front office.

    In regard to yalpstel's comment about J. Doyle, face it, the poor lad does have difficulties with handling the English language (anything beyond Jones and Smith is a hard name to handle [Kate Sombrero?], but I still find him entertaining and someone with good insider knowledge.
     
  17. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: John Doyle Redundancy Count

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Don't you mean "Bridgwater"? :p

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  18. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: John Doyle Redundancy Count

    If his middle name is "Dinosaur," that's the guy. :p
     
  19. yalpstel

    yalpstel Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: John Doyle Redundancy Count

    I really don't mean to step on your's or anyone else's toes. It's more than likely just me. Ya know, there are just those people who irritate, and he's one...for me. Get this...I think his days as a player with SJ were over-hyped. I didn't like him, he used to make a lot of stupid mistakes on the field and it seems as though it has carried over to his announcer career.

    Pretty critical, but I can't help it. I'm just being honest. He bugs me but good for him that he's got the job!
     
  20. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: John Doyle Redundancy Count

    Not at all yalp. I understand where you're coming from. Maybe when Troy retires he'll take over and I know he'd do a better job. Another local boy makes good. One of the reasons I defend Doyle in the announcing position is that having the MLS Shootout Package has given me a chance to see what the other cities in MLS have as announcers. He sure as hell ain't the worst. :)
     
  21. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp But wouldn't that be me (referring to my age, not to my view of whether or not to broadcast home games - which I would be in favor of, by the way)? :(

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!!


    -G
     
  22. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: John Doyle Redundancy Count

    I want to add something to this thread but I don't want to be redundant.
     
  23. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    I want to add something to this thread but I don't want to be redundant.
     
  24. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    Spot on, Tony.

    I tried to listen to the TV broadcast as though it were on radio (and I know John has done soccer on radio before) and I really felt bad for the people who were listening on 910KNEW because it sounded like John & John were in full TV mode letting the pictures tell the story. Shrad...you're my buddy...but that don't cut it on the radio.

    Meanwhile, joining the "to televise or not to televise" debate...I'll chime in again to back up Albany's assertion that all matches home-and-away should be telecast...if only for the "credibility" factor. If your match is telecast, it must be important. If your match is telecast, there are satellite coordinates for the lazy-a$$ TV talking heads to pick off highlights and show them on the 11pm sportscast.

    Joe fan reacts..."yeah, I saw that the game was on TV"..."yeah, I saw the highlights on the 11:00"..."yeah, I saw the story in the paper".... It's a basic publicity tenet called REACH AND FREQUENCY. It's as much about how many times you reach people as the total number of people you reach. The more you stay in their eye, the more they know you still exist, and the more likely they are to eventually attend a match (again...because you know they did in 1996...and 1976).
     
  25. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figure the Quakes have a difficult time as it is getting the away games on air, let alone the home. I remember posting an article about the Giants getting an additional 20/40 games on Fox Sports Net. Get all the away games on one channel with a consistent slot (live or tape delay at 8:00/9:00 pm at the latest) would be fine by me. If you want to televise the home games, get KICU 36.
     

Share This Page