Not that any Burn fan can get too bent out of shape about it given the way Dallas played, but for all the people saying that we can't tell whether he was or wasn't onside, here's what Joe-Max told the Dallas Morning New's Steve Davis: "Moore appeared to be offside on the breakaway tally. The Revolution striker even glanced to the side before his shot to see if the referee's assistant had indeed raised his flag. Jeffries said he'd be "absolutely shocked" if Moore wasn't 5 yards offside. Even Moore agreed. "I thought I was a little bit offsides," he said with a slight smile." http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/soccer/stories/042703dnspoburnlede.9717b.html I know he probably had a call like this coming after that idiotic red card in the first week, but couldn't these bozo officials at least wait until your next game against Chicago for the make-up call?
Doesn't matter, still goes into the record book as a 2-1 win. In a couple of weeks, nobody will remember the situation. The red card was a makeup for blown offsides.
Offsides? Too subjective. If you accept that 50% of the offsides called are wrong and take away potential goals, then it balances out in the end. Joe Max has had plenty of onside goals taken away because the assistant ref got it wrong, so we'll take this one.
I do accept that it balances out, but referees and their assistants get the call right a vast majority of the time--I would say nine times out of ten, easily. How many players have to take a seat during an average baseball season because of a dubious called third strike? And I guarantee you'll get tossed for arguing balls and strikes a hell of a lot faster than for having words with a center ref about an offside call. In a pro match, the yellow card would never go back in the wallet if they used a literal interpretration of "dissent."
Even later in the match, Taylor had a breakaway that was clearly onside, which was waved off. The announcers commented something to the effect that THAT was probably a make-up call for the non-call on Joe-Max. Win some, lose some...
I didn't see the game as I can't get WB56 in Maine, but I did see the highlites on MLS wrap and also MLSNet.com. Clearly a deserved win. Anyone else think John Meterparel (radio play-by-play) is a complete wanker?
He is absolutely horrible. I had the misfortune of listening to part of the Chicago game and he would go prattling on about crap like where they ate dinner for 2-3 minutes while the game was going on! Bad enough if a TV guy does this, but at least you can see the game. And there is no such thing as "dribbling to the 35 yard line" in soccer, even though the Naperville and SouthPark stadiums make it too easy to see the FB lines. I was driving through RI Friday afternoon and stumbled across a radio broadcast in Portuguese of the Sporting -- Beiramar game, and although I don't understand more than a handful of words, the guy was going non-stop about who had the ball, where he was, who was covering him and what they were trying to do. He and the color guy had their timing pretty well down, as when the bpb guy took a breather, the other guy would chime in with a quick (10-15 seconds) comment. Who knows, these guys could have been Ty Keough clones for all I could understand, but at least it sounded like they were talking about the game. The US equivalent would be to listen to a hockey broadcast on radio. If Meterparel even wants to be in the same room with the term "professional" he should at least listen to how the hockey or basketball guys do bpb and model his game after that. Tom
No sense in starting a new thread - forget the offside. If I were a Revs fan, I'd be pretty freaked out. After all, which Revs team is it: The AYSO U-13s who layed down against Columbus, or the damn good team effort against Dallas? Looks like JMM is the difference-maker on this squad. His linkups w/ Ralston were great.
They are the squad you'll see in about 3 or 4 weeks. They're still rounding into competitive form and are "improving" game by game.
"After all, which Revs team is it: The AYSO U-13s who layed down against Columbus, or the damn good team effort against Dallas?" ... or the Revs team that really took it to the Fire in Game #1? The Magpie
I guess this would be fairly incontrovertable, except that I seem to recall it being reported that a linesman who was working that side of the field during the game was pretty confident the play was onside. Hmmm. How do they usually settle these things?
Re: Re: JMM says he was offside on goal Why, the usual way, of course: duelling BigSoccer posts at 18 yards.
What really happened in Dallas How come JMM didn't do a flip after he scored the goal? Could it mean that he was offsides or onsides? Or maybe something more sinister? Let the conspiracy theories begin......the game was played in Dallas ( South lake, South park, whatever)......Tenywa Bonseu was seen at a Borders (a bookstore) on the 6th floor having a latte before the game......Joselito Vaca grew up in a South American country....Peru is in South America and they have Marxists....he could have flown from Bolivia to Peru over Cuba to get to Dallas...there were multiple shots fired on goal by JK.....it all adds up....... we need to organize a congressional subcommittee into the true nature of JMM's position prior to receiving the pass....Ref's make mistakes....sometimes the ball bounces our way (against Dallas) and against us ( in Chicago)....