Jhon Arias - Fluminense

Really a shame he didn't get a big move this winter window but he should absoslutely if he wants it go to a big club euro club in the summer, just a great player.

 

Meh

at this point

let him stay

Brazil league is not that far behind the European leagues outside of the top 3 or 4

 

yea as long as he bosses for Colombia I don't care where he plays. Also is porto really a big jump from where he is? He will have more eyes on him but at his age he isn't going to a top club. Some mid table English team or a big Portuguese team. Neither seem like a step up

 

One of our most consistent players at the moment. If he continues to play this well and stays healthy then he is one of the main reasons I am optimistic about the Copa America.

The way he played against Uruguay was fantastic and can just be the tip of the iceberg.

 

That’s why I don’t like our players to go to Brazil.

Most of them just fail there and for the rest, the exception to the rule, even if they have some kind of success, they hardly make it from Brazil to the best leagues in Europe. And what’s even worse, after a couple of years of facing stronger opponents, you don’t get the impression that they have improved at all.

Compared to our players when they go to Argentina, even to smaller teams, they more easily make the jump to Europe and you notice they learned some after a couple of seasons in terms of tactical skills, mentality on and off the field, etc.

If I were Arias, I’d leave Brazil in the summer now that he’s won most of the things he can win with the team. And if his personal goal is not to become the best foreign player in the Brazilian league of all times, that’s then the time for him to say obrigado e adeus.

 

If he's happy there and thriving of course he should stay if he wants it. But he's basically conquered the league/continent and it'll be hard to see how good he is if he doesn't test himself higher, and of course is he wants to maximize his earnings he'd have to move.

I don't disagree Brazil league is that far behind outside the big leagues, but I think he would be a really good fit for some of the top teams in the world. There aren't alot of guys out there who have the ability to play on both wings or central, attack and defend, create and finish goals while also being a great dribbler. He's as all round a player as there is for an attacking midfielder.

I think he profiles like Angel DiMaria, when you take a winger with skill and athleticism that also has the final ball you should expect their career peak to be longer then most players because you could move him central and even if his athleticism may drop off, he's still skilled enough to play central.

 

my only hope is his performances will elevate his price so much that not even the americans and mexicans won't be able to get their slimy paws on him

europeans won't take him seriously because of his age. Flu actually sold a few players to european teams these past windows

 

Exactly my thoughts.

And with his manager looking so poor as the Brazilian National team manager I bet it makes him stay a bit longer since he is not as hot of a commodity as he once was.
If the tactician is there and there's not much change to the level of talent around him then that would be good for Arias as well.

Conversely if they start selling everybody and the Manager still leaves then that is a different story for me.

 

Yeah I don't think its bad he stays, I do worry that alot of key guys in that project may move on after so much success but the manager and project has been amazing for Arias so if he's happy and progressing no reason to risk it to leave.

 

I don't think it's bad either but it's kind of sad that arguably our most consistent/best player won't be able to play with the big boys in Europe. His window is getting smaller each year.

 

Better to stay than go to a big team in Europe and sitting on the bench with no minutes. So that grass isn't always greener.

 

Just needed to say thank god we have this dude is Colombian, one of my favorite players in general . Dude is just everywhere. I can’t think of what players he reminds me of style wise . But sheesh underrated as hell

 

To me he’s like a way smarter , better finisher , and complete cuadrado lol

 

Not as fast as cuadrado tho but still he’s a slick speedy bastard with crazy ball control

 

Very little weakness to his game. Our most consistent attacking player this cycle.

Now he is even scoring goals so watch out. Three consecutive matches and all three scores very opportunistic and clinical.

 

This may have been said here before but I think he is our most important player. He’s a swiss army knife and provides a dynamic this team has never had.

 

Think he is, not a lot of guys who can do what he does and able to move from wide to central and also defend really well. Yaser has alot of the skills to do it actually, but not near Arias yet.

 

Modern player

Soon centre Backs are going to be asked to play in goal too

 

he LOVES his job....nothing wrong with it.

 

I hear ya and I don't disagree that he should rest more but he's 26 (remember that?). All I'm saying is he was subbed plenty during Copa and prior to Copa Start, they had few prep matches compared to the Brazil league craziness.