Jessica Lynch is a hero?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by mannyfreshstunna, Apr 12, 2003.

  1. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Wait.......I'm sitting here watching her plane taxi? I'm sitting here, and i can't understand this jessica lynch business? Why is she a hero? Sure she's brave as hell, but what about her comrades?

    What, she used all of her ammo? Wow, a mantinence division must have, what two clips?
    Well that settles it give her a silver star.

    By the media declaring her a hero, it discredits a lot of what the anonymous soldiers do everyday.
     
  2. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    It doesn't discredit anyone else's accomplishments. However, it does expose the shallowness of the American media.
     
  3. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less

    Dude, "Saving Private Lynch"? Thank you, CNN!
    :rolleyes:
     
  4. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Kazakhstan
    She's way more a hero than that little girl who fell down the well, and even more heroic than those coal miners in Pennsylvania a while back who were stuck underground for a week.
    But she'll never be as big a hero as that guy in the Guiness Book of World Records who was struck by lightning seven times. That takes real courage.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This reminds me of a JFK story. Someone asked him how he became a hero. He replied, they sank my boat.
     
  6. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Nice work
     
  7. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    I gotta agree. While she did go thru a grueling experience and is somewhat of a brave person for even being there I think this whole "shes a superhero" thing is out of control. But hey what doi you expect from the media.
     
  8. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
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    Objectivity? Oh yeah, right, that ************ went out of the window years ago...
     
  9. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    I have always heard mixed stories about that incident.

    Was it JFK's fault his boat was sunk?
     
  10. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Kazakhstan
    There's a Chapaquidic joke in there somewhere, but I just don't have it in me.
     
  11. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    John McCain also claimed that he is no hero since he only got shot down, resulting in the loss of a multi-million dollar aircraft.
     
  12. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    Yes it was his fault... he was asleep at the wheel.
     
  13. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
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    McCain was offered early release by the NV's and he told them basically to go ***** themselves.
     
  14. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This thread reads like a lot of jealousy.

    What is everyones definition of being a hero? Does one have to be killed in order to be declared a hero?

    I have no issues calling her a hero. I have no issues handing out a silver star or whatever other medals will be awarded. So what's it to you? You want one too? Go through the hell she went through at age 19 and get back to me.

    Her fellow troops that were killed are also heros as well as all the others we will never hear of.

    Just be sure your arses are standing on the streets when they have a local parade honoring those giving it up there and in Afghanistan and all the other places.
     
  15. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    I dont think anyone really has any problem to calling her a hero. heck I think that once you take the oath to protect and serve this country with your life, you should be called a hero. Because a hero to me is someone who does something most people wont or cant, one who sacrifices himself for the betterment of others.

    But I think the problem is that they make such a big deal about her getting captured and all that and make THAT be her "calling". She really had no choice in the situation, its great that she lived throught it but it had more to do with her captors rather than her. You know who the REAL hero is in that whole situation? THat Iraqui dude. what he did deserves FAR more attention and hoopla than just lying in a bed getting bitchslapped for 10 days. We should all feel gratefull and thankful that Lynch made it back from that experience tho, but to the extent where we are covering her plane land and reporting every fart she lays is ridiculous. WHat about the other 7 dudes who where on the plane coming home injured with her? They got no press.

    But you cant blame Lynch you gotta blame the media.
     
  16. angus_hooligan

    angus_hooligan New Member

    May 15, 2001
    Chicago
    Yes, I'd agree that that Iraqi guy does need to get more attention than her as he sacrificed not only his life but his families life to help save her. She does deserve some credit. I don't think she deserves a Silver Star. There are other awards that she will have earned.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is to TeamUSA...if it's about "what she went through," then what about the people wrongly convicted, then freed 15 years later due to DNA evidence? Are those people heroes? Or victims?
     
  18. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Depends.

    If they went to jail as a choice, as all military people go to war by choice, then maybe we could put this arguement on a level basis. Otherwise, apples and oranges.

    Besides (and I think we agree here, dave), could the soldier sue the government for unlawfull war as opposed to the inmate suing the state for unlawful imprisonment?

    Jessica has yet to ask for any awards. She has not spoken to the media. I wouldn't even blame the media. I would guess the government has used her as a soft human face to gain sympathy for this war.

    Then again, I have no proof and have even considered that the US government has held the other POWs themselves to gain sympathy from the media and the people.
     
  19. Finnegan

    Finnegan Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    Portland Oregon
    The U.S. is going to be very reluctant to allow any of the POW's to speak to the media because the truth will come out that the Iraqi's attacked the convoy in a military firefight and sadly 10 of our solidiers died in that firefight.

    The Iraqi's captured the remaining solidiers, provided them with healthcare and never assainated a soul.

    One of the POW's have already told this story. I doubt the others will get a chance to.
     
  20. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Kazakhstan
    Today's Washington Post had an article about her rescue, etc today. The Iraqui doctor they interviewed said she was receiving better treatment than the Iraquis in the hospital and implied the US soldiers may have been a bit unnecesarily Rambo-ish about the whole thing. He claims there were no Iraqui soldiers present at the hospital.
     
  21. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Rambo-ish?
    Did the US troops go in and kill everyone in sight?
    Should they have knocked on the front door and ask if Jessica could come out and play?

    I mean, go in with force, overwhelm them with surprise and speed, after knowing a layout of the building, providing a diversion, etc...Without a hitch is the last word I heard.

    The latest comments just show that the Iraqi people are not the monsters many used to believe. I don't know who believed this exactly, but Iraq's track record was well known.

    Maybe Bush's words made it clear...war crimes would follow any and all ill treatment of POWs.
     
  22. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Kazakhstan
    Perhaps it was called for. I don't recall saying otherwise. But sending a squadron of helicopters and shutting down the hospital full of wounded people seems more than is necessary to take control of an understaffed hospital defended by doctors and nurses.
    Garcia, you seem a bit jumpy today. Too much caffeine?
     
  23. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Sorry, I usually don't try to imply a tone in my posts. Really.

    At any rate, a report I heard today was that Iraqi troops had recently left the hospital or something to that effect.

    Regardless of actual intel at that exact moment, pretty much the whole nation was (is) a warzone and needed to be treated as such.
     
  24. Ugluk

    Ugluk New Member

    Nov 15, 1999
    What kind of operation would you have planned, Captain, with your intel, experience, and training?
     
  25. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well you better tell the Rangers who provided the cover that there weren't any Iraqi soldiers around. All those bullets being fired at them were mere figments of their imagination.

    The brave Iraqi who helped rescued her said he saw Iraqi soldiers, and Fedayeen, and even saw one slapping her.
     

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