Jesse Marsch out at Leeds, rumored for Southampton job

I'd add that with 30 teams with more on the way we already have the second division teams playing. We'd be adding third division teams. My wish is for US Open Cup to become a behemoth and those games would be the way the USL and below take it to the MLS teams.

 

With Rodgers' exit at Leicester today, I think we can now officially say that the majority of Premier League clubs have replaced their manager this season.

In only 1 of those 11 cases did the manager leave because they got a more attractive offer from another club (Potter to Chelsea). In the other 10 cases, the manager was essentially sacked (either officially, or for all intents and purposes).

(If you count Erik ten Hag's introduction at Man United this offseason, then we're at 12 clubs with managerial changes, but I'm only counting changes that occurred after the season already started.)

My guess is that's probably a Premier League record. I just scanned through the past decade and didn't see a year with numbers matching that. In a lot of those seasons, only 5 or 6 clubs changed managers during the season.

 

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🚨 Graham Potter gone from Chelsea @TheAthleticFC #CFC https://t.co/XOg7X4LfZz

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) April 2, 2023

I think Moyes isn’t safe either.

 

as mentioned above, the EPL managerial changes are crazy this year!

 

I thought Potter would do a bit better than he did, but will also say that the Chelsea transfer strategy (both before and after hiring him) just lacked a true vision

 

I understand the money at stake makes people hyper reactionary, but the EPL is destroying itself.

 

It is sort of crazy that Mikel Arteta is now either the 3rd or 4th longest tenured coach in the EPL (depending on whether you count Thomas Frank's time in Championship or not).

 

Leicester should hire Potter.

 

Looks like thats literally where theyre looking next

Chelsea are looking at Naglesmann.

EPL is insanely cutthroat

 

..............nah, its all part of the soap opera.

The fans love it. If Klopp doesn't turn it around at Liverpool next year, he'll be gone too. And who the hell knows what's going on at Spurs.

There's just so much money at stake. It's a monster of England's own making. Not making the champions league is a disaster for the big clubs at one end. Being relegated is a disaster at the other. And this year there seem to be fewer clubs hanging out comfortably mid-table.

I remember Jesse lamenting that he had no time to actually implement his vision while in the Premier League. He was jealous that Thomas Frank got to install his system in the Championship and build, build, build. The premier league is "win now or else."

I saw this tweet about Liam Cooper of Leeds this weekend. He signed for them in 2014.

Liam Cooper today became the first player in Leeds United's history to play a game under 11 different managers in all competitions. #lufc

Apps by manager:
4 Hockaday
26 Redfearn
1 Milanic
9 Rosler
32 Evans
18 Monk
26 Christiansen
6 Heckingbottom
118 Bielsa
20 Marsch
1 Gracia pic.twitter.com/502Ra12WpI

— Jonny Cooper (@JRCooper26) April 1, 2023

 

Anyone think Jesse Marsch would still have the Leeds coaching job if he wasn't American?

 

No.....................

And I'm not convinced Javi Garcia can save them either.

Heck, I won't be surprised if they conspire to finish in last place.

 

I wonder that. People deny their own biases so no way of knowing. But his nationality sure played into the rhetoric of Leeds fans who wanted him out n

 

Honestly, I think the English fans will just cannibalize anyone, for any reason, at any time. And it just so happens that being an American is reason enough.

 

Given that almost every Premier League manager who is bottom half of the table, plus two Chelsea manages, have all been fired, it's possible that such decisions, whether they're good decisions or bad decisions, are not being made based on what a few fans of the club say online.

Roberto De Zerbi is now the 11th longest serving manager in the Premier League.

He was appointed in September.

— Graham Ruthven (@grahamruthven) April 2, 2023

 

If you read my post carefully you will see that I wasn’t saying that they were.

 

Alright he's been gone long enough he's becoming more of that enigma guy. Any Jesse Marsch as Chuck Norris)ish) type of hype?

 

Nagelsman has no experience in the Prem so not a short term solution but there is no short term for Chelsea anyway. They will not be in Europe next season. I guess thinking would be that Nagelsman would have enough games to judge who goes and who stays over the summer.

 

Notably the xG differential in Garcia's five games in charge is minus-5.97. In Marsch's 20 games it was minus-3.14.

 

Indeed. Since Mourinho left the first time in September of 2007, Chelsea has made 15 coaching changes. [Avram Grant, Luiz Felipe Scolari, Guus Hiddink, Carlo Ancelotti, Andre Villas-Boas, Roberto di Matteo, Rafael Benitez, Jose Mourinho #2, Guus Hiddink #2, Antonio Conte, Maurizio Sarri, Frank Lampard, Thomas Tuchel, Graham Potter.......and now in their next game Bruno Saltor.]

And you can do that kind of analysis for a lot of clubs. Its rare for a Pep or Klopp to hang on for a long time. And Klopp's seat might be getting warm.

So when people say "could Marsch have hung on at Leeds if he wasnt American?" The answer is no. They've had 11 coaches since 2014 for Heaven's sake. I don't care what his xG was.

If Leicester can fire Claudio Ranieri after winning the Premier League, then anybody can be fired in England. They just fired Brendan Rodgers who guided them to 5th place in 2019/2020. Won the FA Cup with the them following season. This is Leicester we're talking about.

I was looking at some Championship clubs to see if it's any better. The answer is no. Think about the teams bearing Yanks in that division. They've made mid-season coaching changes at Boro, Norwich, Luton, Huddersfield, West Brom, and Sunderland. Birmingham changed coach prior to the season.

 

When you look at all the sackings this year it seems like Jesse's was par for the course.

 

I think Marsch would have kept his job if he stayed around 13th-14th and 4-7 points above the relegation zone. He just wasn't getting it done.

 

The problem with that though is that the lowest placed team that is 4 or more points above the relegation zone right now is Chelsea in 11th place. So that seems to be an unusually difficult ask this season.

There were temporarily one or two other teams above that line when Marsch was fired, but they didn't stay there for long, because there is so little separating the teams in the bottom half of the table this season.

 

I can’t recall ever seeing so many teams in danger of relegation this late in the season. There are 9 teams that are all nearly equally reasonable candidates for the drop.

 

And they've almost all now changed managers.
Moyes is gonna hang on I think. But maybe they'll make a change in the off-season.

If you'd told me at the beginning of the season that 13 managers were going to be fired and Steve Cooper of Forest wasn't going to be one of the, I wouldn't have believed you.

Forest looked kinda safe for a few weeks, and now they definitely don't.

I'm not sure which American manager I'd want to put into the Premier League ringer. Very good for the back account, I guess.