Jerson Monteiro?

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by CG, May 14, 2007.

  1. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Is he hurt? I know he is not ready for the first team but he is not played one single minute for the reserves.
     
  2. lammygeek

    lammygeek New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    minneapolis mn
    It's customary for a team to sign a player before putting him in a match. It defies reason why once again the team obtained rights to a player they are seemingly unable to get into a contract. Lately, it would seem that reason and the Fire are mutually exclusive.
     
  3. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Wow. I had no idea that he didn't sign. Any idea if he was looking to sign elsewhere?
     
  4. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Have you (or anyone) seen Monteiro play enough to determine he's worth the senior contract?

    There are only so many senior roster spaces available. Of the senior roster players, who would you whack to make space for Monteiro to get the non-DEV contract he desires?

    I don't think the problem is as much to do with the Fire or Sarachan as it is young, talented players looking for something more that 13K, 19K or 28K a season. If the Fire roster was laden with dead weight then you could blame the organization, but it isn't.

    Besides instituting an "American Beckham" rule (ie The Donovan Rule) I'd really like the league to raise the minimum salary to 35-40K. With 10 DEVs per team it would only cost the league approximately $3M to pay the young players in the league a decent salary.
     
  5. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    I've always wondered how developmental players survive in places like Chicago,LA & NY. I guess the dream outweighs the $$. The league should definitely raise the minimum salary.
     
  6. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Goff has some good stuff on DEV players/salaries in his blog.
     
  7. lammygeek

    lammygeek New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    minneapolis mn
    Obviously I haven't, but the team's staff should have proir to selecting him. Point is, he was the 8TH PLAYER DRAFTED! With that pick you should a) take a GEN-AD roster protected player, b) take a player you are committed to devoting a senior spot to or c) failing a or b, trade down to get value for your pick, for multiple lower round picks, a pick next year, a player, an allocation, or something of value. That pick is WAY too high to just piss away on a dartboard selection that doesn't stick.

    What really bothers me is, the FO has never made any remark about the status of this pick, so may never know what the truth is surrounding the guy.

    Here's a question for you: aren't you a little bothered that in the last year the team has twice traded for players they were unable to sign, and now wasted a 1st round pick on a player that either didn't pan out or we were unable to fit onto the roster? Seems like gross mismanagement to me.
     
  8. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Honestly, I'm not all that bothered. If the choice is between drafting players who have the talent to bust into the top 18 but may not sign or drafting a player who will accept a DEV contract but is only useful in helping Jordan Russolillo put away the equipment after practice - I'll take the talent.
     
  9. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    It's no more stupid than protecting Logan Pause while letting Jaqua walk for free. Teams had been inquiring about Jaqua for a few years and the Fire chose not to keep him to trade him, they chose to let him go for free instead.

    But hey, Toyota Park everybody!!! That's all that matters!
     
  10. The only problem with an earlier post is that someone said the current Fire roster is not loaded with dead weight. Actually, it is. Lots of dead weight. You could lop off any of a dozen players and not miss them.
     
  11. lammygeek

    lammygeek New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    minneapolis mn
    While I don't agree that it makes sense to draft players in the first round without a plan for being able to sign them, I do understand your point about drafting talent. OTOH, there are several talented players drafted in the first and second rounds that *were* willing to sign and are seeing time for other teams. Perhaps one of them would have been a better choice.

    How about the other point, trading for players who never sign? There is a growing body of transactions between trades such as these and things like the Monteiro pick which I think a reasonable person would begin to view as a pattern of jumping the gun. But hey, we've got a hellofa groundskeeper and the new and improved media relations dude is super slick. keep up the good work gupster!
     
  12. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  13. lammygeek

    lammygeek New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    minneapolis mn
    Glad Luis checked into this, welcome news indeed. Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
     
  14. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    I'm not sure how wrong you are on this one. Why is it that a player was drafted in January, and here we are, over 4 months later, and the paperwork for said player still isn't finished?
     
  15. cory

    cory New Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    i dont know too much about him.. my brother does tho he played college ball at uab with him and his older brother flavio who was a better player than jerson supposedly.. did yall see the story on college sports network about jerson and flavio last year? flavio actually used to live with my family when he first escaped from angola as a stow away on a boat then played on a club team called the revolution which my dad started and turned into houstonians football club
     
  16. Es Brennt

    Es Brennt Member+

    Feb 25, 2003
    Shermer, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "9-11 changed everything"
     
  17. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    It's been 124 days.

    In a salary cap league, you can't afford to let #1 draft picks go unsigned for at least 7 games (after tomorrow night). It's just another example of not taking advantage of the assets that you have as a team.
     
  18. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well he's actually #2, but the point still stands.
     
  19. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    #1 pick as in a first round draft pick.
     
  20. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  21. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I guess you have never had to deal with INS when dealing with a work Visa. If you can come up with a way to speed up the process, you could make a ton of money as a consultant. It's a very slow and buracratic process.
     
  22. Thebizkit

    Thebizkit New Member

    Sep 6, 2006
  23. Es Brennt

    Es Brennt Member+

    Feb 25, 2003
    Shermer, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Why the concern over salary?:confused:
    It's probably not that much.
     
  24. Kozy

    Kozy tHE pOPULAR fRONT

    Oct 13, 2004
    check.
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was the talk of the preseason.

    :cool:
     
  25. salparadisejr

    salparadisejr Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    Hollywood, FL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What position does he play?

    (please say right mid)
     

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