Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Part III (ITA)

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  1. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    #526 karolb, May 26, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    they wanna get him for cheap and sell him to big club, right :)
     
  2. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89 Member+

    Nov 27, 2010
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    #527 uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89, May 26, 2011
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    I think he won't be cheap, he just signed a new contract
     
  3. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
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    #528 SamuraiBlue2002, May 26, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    He probably has a clause in his contract
     
  4. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

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    #529 SamuraiBlue2002, May 26, 2011
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    I didn't realize that the interest was so serious.

    Apparently Cesena have made an offer for Usami.
     
  5. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    #530 seolseol, May 26, 2011
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    Is there even a slightly chance he will go?
     
  6. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
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    JEF United Ichihara
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    #531 AKITOD, May 26, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Good move, good move :D :D

    Stuff Bayern's offer, Cesena would be a great start for europe.
     
  7. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
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    #532 SamuraiBlue2002, May 26, 2011
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    This move feels like a direct appeal to Zac.

    I believe that Usami feels frustrated that he hasn't made his NT debut yet and I think that he's trying to persuade Zac by going to Italy.
     
  8. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
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    JEF United Ichihara
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    Japan
    #533 AKITOD, May 26, 2011
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    I think there's some truth to that, but also he was EVENTUALLY going to europe.
    I think another element is that if he's rushing, it's because he thinks he'll get put below Miyaichi in the pecking order if he doesn't do something.

    Either way he's too good not to start for Cesena so this is a good start for him. You'd think he will consult Nagatomo before putting pen to paper.
     
  9. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
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    #534 SamuraiBlue2002, May 26, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    I agree

    I feel that he's definitely leaving this summer.

    I actually don't have a problem with Cesena. I believe that he would get playing time, but I can't see him emulating Nagatomo.

    Nagatomo is 24 while Usami is 19.

    I'm guessing that Usami would get from 10-20 starts next season, but to be honest I'm not expecting much in his first season. If he got 5 goals then that would be huge and he would probably move the next season, but more realistically he'll get 1-2 goals and then hopefully have a break out season the next season.

    edit: The one thing that I am worried about is the physicality.
     
  10. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89 Member+

    Nov 27, 2010
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    #535 uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89, May 26, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    It's only a matter of time until Usami make his debut for NT, could be against Peru, nobody knows (The same applies for Miyaichi)...
    By the way, I don't understand Zac's mind, he pick up flops like Kurihara and Takuya Honda while you have Makino and Usami; Thinks like this really makes me mad. Even Okada was smart enough to keep Kurihara away from NT
     
  11. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
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    FC Salzburg
    #536 Saku², May 27, 2011
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    Too soon.
     
  12. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #537 seolseol, May 27, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    What are you guys talking about? Did he sign with Cesena?

    Not a bad move if it's true, Cesena finished 15 th. Only 8 points from 10 th place. Many including me were sure they would get relegated.
     
  13. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89 Member+

    Nov 27, 2010
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    #538 uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    [​IMG]
     
  14. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
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    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #539 goru_no_ura, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Gamba will ask 5-6m US$ for Usami.
     
  15. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
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    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #540 AKITOD, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Gamba are being smart, although Cesena will be thinking that's all their "Yuto Nagatomo" cash gone.
    Nagatomo was bought from Tokyo for $1.8 million, so...... Gamba will have a tough time getting 5-6 out of Cesena considering that's how much they sold Nagatomo to Inter for.

    I suppose Gamba want 5-6 because the KNOW for damn certain that Cesena have the cash if they really want him.
     
  16. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
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    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
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    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
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    Japan
    #541 goru_no_ura, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    If it goes to Cesena, I don't think Cesena will own him, nor pay for him... If you know what I mean... :rolleyes:
     
  17. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
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    #542 sc-f, May 29, 2011
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    Sounds pretty much like Cesena is some sort of broker... so does it make any sense to go there for a Japanese when the coach who took Nagatomo there went away?
    Their 'interest' reminds me of Perugia who were desperate for a Japanese replacement after they sold Nakata to Roma.
     
  18. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
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    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
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    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
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    Japan
    #543 goru_no_ura, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Or, in more recent times VVV.
    It is exactly like that, sc-f...

    My question, thou, is why won't other clubs do the same, really.
    there is absolutely nothing to lose for the European club, the prices, compared to the standard on the continent are ridicule, all you need is a good scout in Japan.
     
  19. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #544 sc-f, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Interesting... but I guess the answer is that from a certain level (of talent/reputation/confidence) players won't easily go when the business scheme becomes too apparent. They have still the luxury to choose. Take Usami: If media is talking about Chelsea watching him and Bayern confirming their training offer, Cesena's offer must be that good that it hurts them.
     
  20. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89 Member+

    Nov 27, 2010
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    #545 uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Nagatomo starts as right-back again
     
  21. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    #546 karolb, May 29, 2011
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    ...and Nagatomo and his team won the cup, congratz!
     
  22. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89 Member+

    Nov 27, 2010
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    #547 uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    [​IMG]
     
  23. BigDnm01

    BigDnm01 Member

    May 14, 2011
    USA
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    Japan
    #548 BigDnm01, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    This makes it 3 (Cup winners) for 3, along with Honda (Russian) and Uchida (German).

    Congratulations, Nagatomo and Inter Milan!

    I wish I could've watch it in full...
     
  24. BigDnm01

    BigDnm01 Member

    May 14, 2011
    USA
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    Japan
    #549 BigDnm01, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    This makes it 3 (Cup winners) for 3, along with Honda (Russian) and Uchida (German).

    Congratulations, Nagatomo and Inter Milan!

    I wish I could've watch it in full...
     
  25. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #550 AKITOD, May 29, 2011
    Re: Japanese Abroad 2010/11 [R] - Italy

    Plus Kagawa's Bundesliga title.
    Welcome to the forum :)
     
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