January Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ripmstr, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. mad theory

    mad theory New Member

    May 10, 2004
    London
    That and Hoyte hasn't impressed.
     
  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I haven't been "wowed" by Hoyte yet but he hasn't really disappointed me either. He's very young and I still think he has a promising future.
     
  3. mad theory

    mad theory New Member

    May 10, 2004
    London
    The new kid, looked decent during pre-season. But seriously his friend Ne is the really talented one, he reminded me of a young Vieira. But we have enough in midfield, so maybe that's why AW didn't go for him.
     
  4. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is his friend also currently at Beveren?
     
  5. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe

    Yes, Ne only arrived at Beveren last season so hasn't acually got enough years under his belt to make the EU passport scam, I mean scheme that Arsenal and Beveren exploit...... :D :D
     
  6. fedwood

    fedwood Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Lehmann to leave if he dont get first team spot back
     
  7. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's 100 percent certain that we are "nearly over the line" on a new contract? That doesn't sound so certain to me.
     
  8. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its quiet in here... Too quiet.
     
  9. OklahomaGunner

    Dec 21, 2004
    Oklahoma City
  10. Bigpapa42

    Bigpapa42 Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    The Wastes of Canada
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Um, huge. I'm pretty sure that At. Madrid have turned down some big offers already. His contract has a minimum buyout of something like $250m, and I think he's valued somewhere around $50m. They won't be able to hold onto him forever, but its going to take a huge amount of money to pry him away.
     
  11. ibreak4coffee

    ibreak4coffee Member

    Jul 27, 2004
    New York
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Not in need of strikers? I respectfully disagree. While it shouldnt be the first priority, lets keep in mind DB10 isnt exactly 22 anymore, Wenger seems to prefer playing Reyes in midfield, and Alaidiere is injured. That leaves Henry and Van Persie... I wouldnt mind another striker.

    However, central midfield should be the priority.
     
  12. OklahomaGunner

    Dec 21, 2004
    Oklahoma City
    ib4,

    I think Reyes can play up front if the need calls for him to do so.

    However, I do see your point.

    I think I could have worded my meaning better by simply saying if Arsene were to spend that kind of money there are more pressing needs.
     
  13. michaec

    michaec Member

    Arsenal
    England
    May 24, 2001
    Essex
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wenger may look at strikers in the Summer depending on Bergkamp's status, but with Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie and Reyes all fit and able to play up front I don't see why he would buy one now. Aliadiere and Lupoli are young (and Aliadiere is injury prone), but I think he'll be hoping at least one of them comes through in the near future.

    I don't think central midfield is a priority either, even if Edu leaves then Vieira, Gilberto, Fabregas and Flamini should be enough, at least until the end of the season.

    The defence has been holding up pretty well in recent weeks, but I wouldn't mind seeing a decent experienced central defender signed and slide Toure over to right back. With Sol out it's even more apparent just how many high balls Toure doesn't win, expect that the be highlighted against Bolton on Saturday. I like what I've seen of Senderos and at least he will challenge in the air, but Campbell is over 30 and the young Swiss has time on his side. He could do with another season playing regularly in the reserves and getting the odd first team run out here and there.

    Both the keepers we have are complete muppets and I'd love to see Wenger sign someone to shore up this position. People mention Robert Green and I'm unconvinced, but I doubt he could be any worse than the present two. However signing a good centre half would make this less of a problem.

    After Lehmann's outburst yesterday I'm sure his days at Highbury are numbered even though he reckons he's going to stay and fight for a place. I expect him to be gone by the end of this transfer window and while I'd be quite happy to have Taylor on the bench I think that would prompt Wenger to look for another keeper as it seems he doesn't rate him much.
     
  14. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got to disagree with you here. If Edu leaves before the end of the season we will definetly need to bring some cover in and that assumes that Gilberto isn't done for the season or longer. If we don't have either of them and we don't bring in some cover then I for one will be striking the panic button. That would leaves us too week to finish the season especially if we progress to a degree equal or greater to last year in europe and the fa cup.

    I agree that Green might not be worse than Jens or Almunia but I've seen little to convince me that he'll be any better either. Who could we realistically bring in during this month that will be a certain upgrade over what we have without breaking the bank? For all of the talk of bringing in a new GK, I haven't heard anyone present a reasonable list that are proven improvements over what we have and that are available at the prices we're looking at.

    My answer is that we'd be better off buying cover at positions like center mid and center defense and not wasting money on a position where one player can cover almost all necessary matches. The fact that we already have adequate cover at the gk spot makes buying another now just silly. If jens is leaving at the end of the season then that is when we should bring in somebody not now.
     
  15. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cannon, i mostly agree with you, but if i were Wenger i would try to sell Lehmann back to the Bundesliga and buy Van Der Sar with the proceeds. Mind you, i don't think Lehmann is that bad, i just think Van Der Sar could do a job for us. He has so much experience.
    PS Stuttgart eyes Lehmann swoop
     
  16. michaec

    michaec Member

    Arsenal
    England
    May 24, 2001
    Essex
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well there are other options. Lauren or Toure could both do a job if we really needed them to. There is a degree of flexibility in the squad that could be utilised.

    I agree that there doesn't seem to be many obvious candidates to take up the gloves. But as I said, good cover in front of the keeper would make this less of a problem. Even then, a good keeper is a necessity in the Summer if one can't be found in this window.

    My comments were based on the assumption that Lehmann will be on his way earlier rather than later due to his comments to the press as I said in my original post. If he doesn't leave in this window then I wouldn't expect any movement on the goalkeeping front before the Summer.
     
  17. fedwood

    fedwood Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    its summer here
    lets find a keeper now
     
  18. ibreak4coffee

    ibreak4coffee Member

    Jul 27, 2004
    New York
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  19. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another older GK with no proven track record...um, great. He has looked good for Palace but did anyone else notice his complaints about the need for a rest last week? Not a great sign for a GK who didn't even start the season and who doesn't have to deal with europe games. Love the tracksuit though.
     
  20. Neo¹

    Neo¹ Member

    Sep 17, 2004
  21. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    inter milan have an overabundance of strikers... wish we could go for Obafor(?) Martins... bags of pace and skill~
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Obafemi. They wouldn't sell him though - Vieri and Recoba are being pushed out, so Martins and Adriano will likely be Inter's starters for a couple of years.
     
  23. Jasonisimo

    Jasonisimo New Member

    Jun 3, 2003
    Boston
    Allow me to overreact for a minute...

    Arsenal has needed another top Centerback going back a season and a half now. Has this situation changed suddenly that we can dream of bringing in other attacking players?

    Arsenal's attackers are plenty versatile and an astute manager such as Arsene could shuffle them around easily. Scoring goals has not been terribly difficult.

    A Centerback... and if not, possibly center midfielder or goalkeeper.

    Hard spots to fill now, given Arsenal's resources. I think Almunia has been adaquate, but has he been better than Lehmann? Is he ever going to be a top goalkeeper? I really feel Arsenal missed out when Chelsea signed Cech. He's had the best year of any goalkeeper in 2004 and has all the ability in the world.

    Bottom line for me is that if Arsenal don't bring in another defender (who is at least close to the finished article) then my outlook for the league and the CL will be fairly dour. There isn't any attacker Arsene can whip out of a hat that won't leave me non-plussed, insofar as this season is concerned.
     
  24. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    oh i know nice... just dreamland anyway, we arent chavski..
    yakubu would make a great partner for titi as well...
     

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