James Sands at Rangers (olf NYCFC)

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  1. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    And any midfielder that can seem to adequately replace Aribo in Gio (and the press') mind will get a good long look from other clubs. But those are pretty big boots to fill. If Nigeria have a long run might be good for Sands, but maybe not for Gers.
     
  2. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    I can’t imagine the speed of thought is above Sands. The fields (some) might play rough and getting used to. But the biggest challenge is always the semi-butcher nature of the league and get ready to pass and leap, pass and leap, look out for cheap shots and expect there will be some unfair, rough play on your and you can’t let it get inside your head.
     
  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Is this true? The Championship and even Prem are rougher, in a way. The players are just as big if not bigger - and are a bit faster/quicker and those that want to take you out do it just as nastily, if not more so. In the SPL, in general, you have a split-second more to get your boot out of the way. The SPL can be ugly due to a very fast drop-off of skill outside the top end, but I've not seen particularly compelling set of stats that suggest it's more dangerous/has more cheap shots (that, of course, is usually down to refereeing) - there are pitch issues sometimes and the difference between OF/Hampden/Fir and Hamilton's plastic rug is huge.

    But I bet if you took the average # of games our guys in the SPL missed due to injury, and comped them to the US German or EPL players, you wouldn't find it broke all that badly for the SPL. It's for sure an uglier game in terms of tactics and skill level, but I wonder if there's really a higher break rate.

    The thing about Aribo is he's just playing really well right now and is in a lot of EPL team's sites, if rumors are trusted. So they will also be aware of how his stand-in fares. (Kamara also has eyes on him, so pairing the Gers midfield is an opportunity to get your name on some more watch lists right now.)
     
  4. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Best Old Firm Tackles - YouTube

    No one does the wipeout tackle better than the Scots
     
  5. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Sure, there are plenty of brutes, but I do hear the "SPL is so dangerous" schtick all the time and wonder if it's backed up by stats. Could well be, but just going off memory I think of more players (Holden, Arfa, Haaland, Cech, Mason, Jiminez...) badly hurt in ELP, but that's probably because I pay more attention to EPL. Not to derail the thread but I do wonder if there's any good stats on injury/minute by leauge.
     
  6. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Only 1 of the instigators was English.

    Johnny Evans- Northern Ireland
    Roy Keane- Ireland
    Stephen Hunt- Ireland
    David Luiz- Brazil
    Nigel (the butcher) de Jong- Holland
    Gary Cahill- England
    David Luiz- Brazil
     
  7. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read one time, a few years back, the two most "dangerous" leagues defined by their disciplinary records was the Brasileiro and Primeria in Portugal. I can't remember the exact metrics / data used but it mentioned % of tackles that resulted in yellows and reds, average numbers of cautions per match, and a few other data points..... The SPL wasn't even close to the top 10. Need to find that article...... I remember the top 10 was mostly South American leagues with the Russian and Israeli Premier League.
     
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  8. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I'd be curious to see the metrics as well, but I'm not sure that cards/disciplinary records would be all that informative. The fact that a league issues more cards per tackle or per match doesn't necessarily mean the tackles are more dangerous. On the contrary, it could mean that the refs protect the players more, which could result in less dangerous play.
     
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  9. el floppo

    el floppo Member

    NY RB
    United States
    Dec 7, 2021
    NYC LES Evil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No chance he plays today, right?
     
  10. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People in this thread and Brian Sciaretta think there’s a pretty high chance
     
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  11. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's hope so. <fingers-crossed>
     
  12. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like he's starting in the midfield in place of Joe Aribo who is with Nigeria at AFCON
     
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  14. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love it
     
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  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's not the point, however. It's not the nationality it's the league.
     
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  16. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    Bru. Read. My. Posts.

    Love freis

    (also, this is to be read in a slightly-buzzed-at-the-bar-before-the-game jocular mates voice, not a I-seriously-think-I'm-all-that asshat voice. I now am considering stage directions with all my posts, David Mamet style. As you were.)
     
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  17. freisland

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  18. gjackson2207

    gjackson2207 Member

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Christian to score 18 goals today on national TV earning himself a national team call up. Sands won't be at fault for any.
     
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  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Love that they actually abbreviate Jay Emmanuel-Thomas as JET.
     
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  20. el floppo

    el floppo Member

    NY RB
    United States
    Dec 7, 2021
    NYC LES Evil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh. As you were. You were. As you. Were. You. As you were.[/Mamet]

    so I'm supposed to read stuff?
     
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  21. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Google says Sands is playing center back.
     
  22. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Ligue 1 - Fanatiz
    Serie A/CL - Paramount
    La Liga/Bundesliga/Championship - ESPN

    SPL is B/R live?

    I don't have it in me to subscribe to anymore streaming services for various leagues
     
  23. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Google is wrong, as per usual. He's a cm.
     
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  24. H-TownTiger

    H-TownTiger Member

    Liverpool FC
    Jun 3, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    It has been a minute since I've watched the SPL. Let's just say this is a little bit lower in class from the Laudrup and gascoigne days.
     
  25. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s on Paramount+, although todays game was actually on TV on the CBS Sports Network.
     
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