I think the notion is that he'd prefer players to go to teams on which they'd play in the near term future. Szetela is a fine player, but he's not cracking (probably not sniffing the bench) the Roma lineup this year. There's a huge difference than being signed because you're promising, young and cheap and being signed as a player, and he's not in the second category. OTOH, sign for a smaller club (where I believe the managing/coaching is often as good or better, and they work with youth in the first team because they have fewer choices), improve for a couple years, then move to a larger club. That's a far more common route to the big time.
The Crew boards have absolutely hammered Danny about his play now 3 weeks in a row. Folks say I am too much the booster. Is that enough realism for ya'?
Really? I thought he's played well, I didn't get to see this last game but he subbed in the 77 minute right? I actually saw him make some plays that finally opened my eyes to why these teams are "interested" in him. He really needs to get to Europe pronto and be challenged by the best. I like what I see in this kid.
He might not play for Roma, but I do think the Serie A will be a good place for him. We might all be wrong, and he might play though I doubt this I think he will gain experience, and move to a mid table team like Sampdoria, or something. This is a good place for him if he does go.
But there's a very good chance that he'd end up getting a loan. And getting loaned to a lesser Serie A club, or a Serie B club, would be a fantastic experience for an American player his age, provided he gets regular playing time.
I would say that maybe and this is just a maybe but the people who post in the crew forum actually have seen him play more than in just the u-20 world cup. This kid has the skills but I have yet to see him put togeather a string of good performances. I know he is young but he has been wildly inconsistent or hurt. Everyone is saying how he needs to go to europe but he has yet to prove himself in MLS. I am not saying he shouldnt cause if he feels like it will further his career then why not. I would prefer for him to stay for a year or two and show is ability rather than everyone speculating about it.
Young players, esp good ones, are usually wildly inconsistent. They have the ability to perform at a high level, but haven't learned the professionalism needed to do it day in, day out. People want to see him in europe because they believe the learning curve will accelerate there. with some players, I don't agree. But is Szetela getting better, more consistent. Sounds to me as if he's a bit stagnant, which means time to move.
I suspect Danny had a big let down after U-20 World Cup and now with the distractions of possible trade to Europe its difficult to play day in and day out at the intensity level needed by the Crew. I agree its time for him to move before transfer window shuts.
Exactly. For Danny's sake he should absolutely go, but for YA fans excited about seeing Danny actually "playing" for Roma, I think that's probably unlikely. In fact, given his inconsistency with Columbus, a lower table loan might even be a stretch.
I would take that... and say you may be right... except these are the same people who called him a thug and wanted him gone yesterday... I think ya look at Szetela the same way many DC United/RSL fans looked at Adu...
I would have no problem with a player going to a lower-level top-tier team, like Derby County. Every team in the premiership plays ManU, Chelsea, 'Pool, and Arsenal twice each. I would think the most development occurs playing against such top competition. Sure, the coaching may be better at the big teams... but then again maybe not; after all, these teams generally pick up players that are fully developed, or close to it. I'd much rather a developing player gets playing time, rather than be on the bench for one of the big teams (and that is most certainly where they'll be if they're not up to snuff). BTW, I haven't read through this whole (very long) thread. Any news on Szetela signing for a Euro?
Just a techinical question on this: If he was signed by Roma, lets say tomorrow, or even in January, could he be loaned out this season? He's now registered with the crew, he'd have to register with Roma, and then he'd have to register with the club he was being loaned to, right? That would make three clubs in one July to July year, correct? And isn't the limit 2? I know Mascherano got an exemption, somehow, but that was the year of messed up deals, all the way around, so I don't see that as helpful. maybe it is. Or maybe I really don't understand this rule.
Yeah, but this is a FIFA law, right? Wouldn't they just say "It's not FIFA's fault that MLS plays in two windows," so tough cookies?
And another technical question: where does this phrase come from? I've said it my whole life, but seeing it just now made me realize it makes no sesne...
Im not disagreeing... if someone were to appeal, that would be the argument... that is all I am getting at...
No idea! I'm not even sure which part of my ass I pulled it out of, since even as I was writing it I was thinking, "Does this expression even exist or am I about to get laughed off the YA forum?"
Warning: I'm making this up. But I'm pretty sure that the original expression was "tough cookie" as in "he's one tough cookie." I'm assuming that the expression "tough cookies" (which I have heard on ocassion) comes from people mixing up the expressions "tough luck" and "that's the way the cookie crumbles." I can't believe I just wasted 90 seconds of my life on that. Now back to a lack of news about Danny Szetela...
this is from the latest version of the Regs on the status and transfer of players. "Players may be registered for a maximum of three clubs during the period from 1 July until 30 June of the following year. During this period, the player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs." So he would be fine if transferred to Roma, never played a match and is loaned out to another team that he would play for. The limit he can't play for more than 2 clubs in the 1 year period. As long as he doesn't play for roma I think it would be OK.
The same song-and-dance Shep has been peddling for a month. A move is "imminent", to happen in the next few days. We'll see. (a) If it happens, and (b) if it happens with the clubs Shep's been bleating about.
I thought you could be regestered with three clubs under the condidion that you only play for two (for this exact situation: sign-and-loan).