It's time to stop playing Freddy out of position

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  1. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3276 kokoplus10, Feb 6, 2013
    The team needs a defense and JK hasn't addressed it. That's the problem. Not the fact that Adu hasn't been called in.

    With that roster of players there is no reason Honduras should have had that many chances on our net. They are much improved from last cycle but not THAT much.
     
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  2. jlasoon

    jlasoon Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    Orlando, FL
    #3277 jlasoon, Feb 6, 2013
    Are you kidding me, the team needs a new teem. the defense was bad I'll give you that, but the rest of our Euro trash sucked, just as it has for long time now. Our best player plays in MLS and is currently sitting at home on a sabbatical doing god knows what.
     
  3. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
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    #3278 kokoplus10, Feb 6, 2013
    A better defense...one that has been tested in friendlies and settled into their roles and knows each other...that defense doesn't allow 2 goals in Honduras. Thus we escape with 1 point minimum which is par for the course and we're looking very good right now.

    The Dempsey goal should have been enough. Heck, we should have been able to post a shutout with the quality of defenders our pool has to offer. The problem is that the defense hasn't been addressed by our coach...thus we looked all out of sorts and allowed all kinds of chances to Honduras. A better defense builds the foundation for a better offense.
     
  4. BenfromUSA

    BenfromUSA Member

    Jan 20, 2006
    Minneapolis/St. Paul
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3279 BenfromUSA, Feb 6, 2013
    one goal is not terrible, but one goal on 2 or 3 serious threats on goal is VERY bad against a team like Honduras. Freddy, LD, Dempsey, Bradley combo is the only thing that really can do the job and tear teams apart.
     
  5. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
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    #3280 kokoplus10, Feb 6, 2013
    Maybe.

    But it doesn't matter if you're tearing other teams apart when they are doing the same thing to you.
     
  6. jlasoon

    jlasoon Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    Orlando, FL
    #3281 jlasoon, Feb 6, 2013
    Focus on the midfield's crapfest. Therein lies the problem.
     
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  7. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    #3282 ImaPuppy, Feb 6, 2013
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  8. BenfromUSA

    BenfromUSA Member

    Jan 20, 2006
    Minneapolis/St. Paul
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3283 BenfromUSA, Feb 6, 2013
    they didn't "tear us apart". they scored one brilliant goal, and in total took advantage of 2 breakdowns. they were just able to control the game because we had no one that could hold the ball, take players on, or be dangerous (without a perfect service or being sprung through kind of dangerous that eddie j and altidore don't provide.)
     
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  9. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
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    #3284 kokoplus10, Feb 6, 2013
    They had TONS of chances and better finishes would have shown that. You're right about one thing though. The defense couldn't hold onto the ball or do anything with it. They turned it over repeatedly in bad spots on the field and their passes were way off the mark when they weren't punting the ball all the way up the field.

    The lack of hustle on defense was abysmal. Jones and Chandler gave sooooooo much space to their marks (when they weren't being made look foolish) and Gonzo and Cameron played like two guys that have never played next to each other before...because...they haven't. And that is a HUGE coaching failure.

    The bike was an awesome goal and impossible to stop. But watch the tape again. Why does Honduras have a hour to set up the cross that led to that great goal? Answer: ZERO pressure on the cross.

    Defense is a problem. A HUGE one.
     
  10. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    #3285 Schapes, Feb 6, 2013
    No response?
     
  11. jclampit

    jclampit Member

    Apr 12, 2002
    #3286 jclampit, Feb 6, 2013
    Just. Disappointing. All around.

    How about, regardless of whether offense or defense was the bigger problem, we try to get better in both areas?
     
  12. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3287 Aduesque, Feb 6, 2013
    Blah Blah Blah. A broken clock is right two times a day.
     
  13. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
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    --other--
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    United States
    #3288 Aduesque, Feb 6, 2013
    The Nats need to bring in and start Adu.

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  14. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
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    --other--
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    United States
    #3289 Aduesque, Feb 6, 2013
    Seriously?

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    Even when nothing is there, Adu draws fouls

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  15. ktorp18

    ktorp18 Member

    Aug 31, 2012
    #3290 ktorp18, Feb 7, 2013
    Adu deserved a call up for camp cupcake. Is anyone really going to sit here and say that Brad Evans is a better option at the CAM than Freddy Adu? Dempsey is the only somewhat creative player we have in the attack. This is a huge problem. This is why we create so few chances.
     
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3291 OWN(yewu)ED, Feb 7, 2013
    i will concede the brad evans call is as dumb as it is stupid, if we are bring that sort of player we have at least 3 better that didnt go to camp strudel
     
  17. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    #3292 Schapes, Feb 7, 2013
    So Freddy Adu doesn't have a club team - yet,he should start for the US National team.

    Is there another player whose country is in the midst of qualifying for Brazil 2014 that starts for his national team and doesn't have a club contract?
     
  18. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    #3293 Schapes, Feb 7, 2013
    I don't think any of the Adu fan boys have answered this?
     
  19. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
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    United States
    #3294 kokoplus10, Feb 7, 2013
    Oh yay! Highlight reels! :rolleyes:
     
  20. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3295 Aduesque, Feb 7, 2013
    It's so easy for a hater to throw that out there like we wasn't calling up Bradley when he was riding the bench at AV. The bottom line is he has the ability to help the Nats. Simple as that.
     
  21. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3296 comoesa, Feb 7, 2013
    This. Adu fans are overzealous but a lot of you folks have selective memories.
     
  22. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    #3297 Schapes, Feb 7, 2013
    Walk me through how he helps the USMNT - but, can't help any other club in the world?
     
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  23. jas2781

    jas2781 Member

    Jan 5, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3298 jas2781, Feb 7, 2013
    During the Hex last time Jozy was at Xerez on loan, where I don't think he ever made the 18. Yet there he was for the USMNT starting and scoring a hat-trick against Trinidad and Tobago.
     
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  24. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    #3299 Schapes, Feb 7, 2013
    At least he had a club. Freddy has no club, right? Same with MB. At least he had a club.
     
  25. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3300 Aduesque, Feb 7, 2013
    Who says he can't help out any club in the world? That is the most illogical question your punitive brain has asked me yet.
     
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