It's Official - The Juan Mata Thread

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  1. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
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    Jul 13, 2018
    The last 4 players to sign a contract renewal at Manchester United..

    • Juan Mata
    • Ashley Young
    • Phil Jones
    • Chris Smalling
     
  2. thenamestsam

    thenamestsam Member+

    Aug 8, 2013
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    He just isn't good anymore. For a guy that offers absolutely nothing defensively and is only supposed to contribute to breaking down teams/unlocking bunkers he had 3 goals and 2 assists in about 1,300 minutes last year (a bit over 14 90s). That speaks for itself and he's not getting any younger.

    By all accounts he seems like a great guy and I'm sure he's a positive in the dressing room but a two year deal for a guy who's pretty much dead weight on the pitch is absurd.
     
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  3. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
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    Personally, I prefer to get rid of Lingard. Lingard is the player taking away minutes from those players.
     
  4. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    Lingard is 26 and more naturally suited to Ole's style of play, with his workrate, movement and speed. As he shown glimpses early in Ole's tenure (vs Tottenham and Arsenal in the FA Cup among others).
    Mata can help, at a marginal level, but in a choice between both players, Lingard is clearly the one which would make sense to hang onto. The goal, in relation to Lingard, is still to find someone who can supplant him at the wide right spot and have become a squad player/spot starter, a role that is definitely more suited to his talents than a regular, lock down starter.
     
  5. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

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    Lingard, despite is obvious limitations, is much younger and more suited to Ole's system than Mata. Lingard is a decent squad guy to have around but he doesn't belong in the starting 11 for any top side. His game is just to limited. His only real strengths are his movement and his finishing.

    Mata has no real strengths anymore. He isn't a creator like he used to be and while his finishing is decent, he struggles to physically get into scoring positions anymore. That will only get worse in a team that clearly wants to focus on counterattacking with speed.
     
  6. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
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    Apparently Lingard is 26 going on 16 based on that most recent Twitter video.
     
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  7. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

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    Nov 2, 2001
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    I could care less what he gets up to in his private life. It's the same whether it's Pogba's hair cuts or Giggs banging this sister in law.

    It's what he does on the field what matters which is pure shyte.
     
  8. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Good point.
     
  9. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

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    I find more value in Mata than Lingard. Lingard we could cash in on him and provide minutes for someone with higher upside.
     
  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jun 4, 2006
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    ideally neither of the aforementioned should start for us but it is hard to see any upside in either currently. Lingard promised some under José but that looks to have been an anomaly except against Arsenal.

    oh well, what's done is done. we've botched the "rebuild" project and now we're banking entirely on bringing in quality starters to minimise the playing time of both players and to try to improve/save next season
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  13. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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  14. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    "The World Cup winner's influence on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's young, improving squad is invaluable and the manager continues to be a huge supporter of the fleet-footed Spaniard," Manchester United said in a statement about Juan Mata after announcing the midfielder had signed a new deal

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...ter-united-midfielder-signs-new-one-year-deal

    not a fan of this and it means Fernandes wait for the 8 goes on at least one more year
     
  16. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

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    the 'fleet-footed 'midfielder? Ha
     
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  17. J'can

    J'can Member+

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    Lol I saw a notification that there is a new post in the Juan mata thread. I was like "ffs we still have a Juan mata thread?"
     
  18. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
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    It has been said that he's being encouraged to finish his coaching badges and he'll take up a position on staff (likely the academy) when he's done.

    I think it makes a lot of sense if you view it as something beyond playing personnel. He's effectively a coach now. He's got loads of insight, knowhow, recent relevant experience and he's technically brilliant. We can use him as a coach and god forbid there's an injury crisis or a need to rotate heavily, he's available as part of the playing staff.

    I think this is essentially what we've done with Grant as well. He seems to be more coach than player. I'm okay with that.

    As long as we aren't paying Mata a lot and aren't blocking opportunities for kids, this is a great move. Not the same as giving Phil Jones a new contract.
     
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  19. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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  20. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    But that was the only reason we were keeping him around?!
     
  21. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
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    :laugh: he is going to be renewed for two more years :ROFLMAO:
     
  22. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

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    The only top league he could contribute in at this point would be Italy. Its slow enough that him being basically immobile wont be as much of an issue.
     
  23. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    David Silva went back to Spain and killed it...
     
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  24. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

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    David Silva when he left City was 5x the player Mata is right now.
     
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  25. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    He’ll go to Spain and we’ll find out for sure. I’m sure you’ll be wrong, like the myriad of other things you’ve been wrong about the past 2 years…
     
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