It's a just war, say Iraq's exiles

Pretty powerful stuff. This, in my opinion, is where the mainstream media in this country is really dropping the ball.

Go out and find some Iraqi exiles and ask them what they think of all this.

My guess is they'll get answers similar to the ones in this article.

 

Third world exiles are overrated. Generally speaking, they fled their country when the going got tough. Now they want to pass judgement from a save haven. Generally, speaking, let me hear from those who chose to stick with their homeland.

 

That's a pretty bold statement. I don't know if you intended it to be as such, but it pretty much says that a large amount of American citizens are "overrated" because they came here instead of sticking it out back at home. Freddy Adu would be horrified to hear this.

 

I was not clear. I should have said that the opinions of exiles about their home countries are overrated. Spare me the Adu example (Hail Adu, full of grace). His family won an immigration lottery. Dumb luck.

 

I'm sure there are Iraqis in Iraq and outside who would cream in colors at the thought of the US invading and ousting Saddam.

And I'm sure the liberal media can give you a few stories about some schmendrick or other in Baghdad saying something to the effect of "We don't hate America, why does America want to kill us?" I read a few this week.

And, I'm sure Miami is crawling with kidnappers who still want the US to Pearl Harbor Castro and re-establish Mob Rule (note subtle political irony).

AND, I remember when there were stories about Afghan civilians under the Taliban who didn't want to catch a daisy-cutter face first.

Maybe I'm just feeling irritable tonight, but I'd have to eat a couple of bran muffins in order to give a **** about any of them. What happened to America deciding what was best for American foreign policy?

The humanitarian rationalization has made a big comeback on the board, and that's an issue that deserves some serious discussion. But we should lay waste a nation because a couple of exiles are sizing their heads for De Gaulle hats? Put a quarter in the "don't" jar.

 

Actually I don't think the idea is to lay waste to Iraq. It's to oust its political leadership. Then to build up the country economically in much the same way we built up South Korea.

According to Tom Friedman in the NY Times, the gross domestic product of all the Arab nations combined doesn't equal that of Spain. The result is an environment that breeds extremists like Hamas and AQ because there's so damn much poverty.

The region is BADLY in need of some economic stability and Iraq has the resources to become the economic cornerstone of the region. The feeling is if Iraq is strong economically, the other countries in that region will be motivated to make some cultural and economic changes.

This hopefully leads to less poverty and greatly diminishes the number of potential recruits for Osama and his merry band.

I'm not saying it will work, but according to Friedman, who knows what he's talking about, that's the plan.

Piledriving Iraq and its infrastructure would be conterproductive to that goal.

 

I think the little joke you comedians do here is "fixed your post".

 

Well can't the all-powerful US just fricking assassinate Saddam then? If they're gonna go ahead anyways...

 

I've tried to explain this many times, but we are powerless to destroy Saddam. Several sequels are in the works and Saddam is a major character. Son of Saddam just won't cut it.

 

Very nice article. Funny what a big difference there is between British Iraqi's and Dutch Iraqi's! A majority of the Iraqi's over here do not want a war.

 

In Rome the "italian" iraqis were in front in the demo. They started it.

 

If poverty is so important, why is there terrorism in Spain? (re: Eta)

I saw this "Iraqi exile" (actually, she was born in Kuwait and has lived most of her life in England) on the TV this morning and she struck me as being naive. She seemed to think that the minute the US gets rid of Saddam, some sort of Western democracy, electing Iraqis, will forever govern Iraq.

However, reading the Times today, they say it is going to be governed for at least 2 years by a retired American general (Garner) who will answer to Rumsfeld and Franks.

 

Free oil, huray!

 

i agree. i would much rather listen to college students who equate peace with che guevara pictures....

you could also pick anyone who was talking on the chicago local news(i tuned in awaiting hilarious times, they started talking and hilarious times were had)...it was more embarassing for them than it was for me.

 

I kind of like to listen to people that have never been in the military, have no chance of getting called to war, and don't have the balls to back up their beliefs (by signing up) cheer on our military like they are the home team in a WC qualifier against Iraq.

 

if that was directed at me take a look at my profile hoss. i'm enlisted my date is teetering at moving up because of this awesome stuff. (airforce intelligence applications...if you care)

thanks for playing.

 

Air Force doesn't count. They don't get shot at. Go tell them you want to switch to Marines or Army.

My comments were not directed at specificly but you can take them that way if you want?

 

You are a moron. It's all about the oil for you guys isn't it? If the US wanted to fight a war over oil, we would have invaded Venezuela. Its the very people throwing Euro-tantrums that rely on Mid East oil.

 

i've heard this one a thousand times trust me. and if you have those feelings you're terribly ignorant. pilots get shot at all the time. combat controllers, para-rescue.

not only that without the airforce nothing goes anywhere. i'm pleased you're so ignorant about what it takes to be a real defender of the country.

 

Way to go you ungrateful piece of trash. Tell the 8th force, or maybe Scott O' Grady that the AF doesn't get shot at. You are the dumbest, most ungreatful person on here. You have just dishonored everyone who died in a AF uniform, aswell as all who fell into enemy hands (ie John McCain). I hope the souls of the 50,000 dead airmen of WWII come to you in your sleep.

 

You forgot to mention Air Force Intelligence Applications. Almost as dangerous as 82nd Airborne.

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not only that without the airforce nothing goes anywhere. i'm pleased you're so ignorant about what it takes to be a real defender of the country. [/QUOTE]

Tell the Navy that they don't move anything except Marines. The rest is done by the Air Force.

My ignorance comes from the Army. That's where I learned that they don't even shoot M-16's in the Air Force.
(Hope that wasn't classified)
The rivalry between branches includes cheap shots. So after you've been there for awhile remember that if you make any jokes about stupid grunts that you are "ignorant about what it takes to be a real defender of the country."

 

the air force runs in my family. and you'll have to excuse me for not jumping all over a job like EOD disposal or security forces when i knew i could get a intel job.

 

Gee, now I'll never sleep tonight.