Italy is out if Sweden and Denmark agree to tie...

No chance either team would do that though.

 

Hey, I have a great idea. Lets go out and tie the match today 5-5.


This is one of the stupider posts I've read on bigsoccer.

 

Well its rather theoretical. But you may be right. Unlikely though Imo.

 

If the score 2-2 happens naturally during the game then we might very well see both teams becoming quite defensive and content.
But there's no way they would aim for or arrange such a result from the start.

 

Like others have said, there's no way this result could be arranged, those days are over, at least in this part of the world. And the scandinavians never fixed results in any case.
However, it is an amusing thought that the Italian team, after 2 games, no longer controls it's own destiny, but have to rely on another game ending in a specific way, in order to advance.

 

No, the Swedes and Danes will not fix the match...

But you can already hear the Italians looking for some conspiracy.

That way they can blame the refs, or Uefa, or Fifa, or any one else but themselves when they go home.

 

Id say Italy are almost certain to go through if they dont screw up against Bulgaria.

45% chance Denmark advances, 45% chance Sweden advances....10% chance both teams advance.

 

So you think there's a 10% chance of 2-2, 3-3 or a similar result? Hmm, I would think 0-0 or 1-1 is more likely. And I think the swedes has a greater chance of winning than Denmark.
Edit: Because Denmarks finishing so far has been crap, while Swedens has been a lot better. Denmark seemed like they had a better defense in the first game, but not today.

 

Goal differential isn't the first tie breaker in this case? If so then italy just need to win by 3 against Bulgaria in the case of a Sweden-Denmark tie.

regardless, I'll be pulling hard for Bulgaria. A draw or a win for them and bye bye Italy no matter what happens in the other game.

 

Is there any way Sweden And Denmark draw 2-2 or higher, and not have the Italians screaming fix?

 

This has been discussed to death in the other threads, and yes, goal difference is a tie breaker. However, the goals scored between the 3 teams on equal points come first, before the results against the 4th team. So if the game ends 2-2, Sweden would have a total score of 3-3, Denmark 2-2, and Italy 1-1 - Sweden in 1st, Denmark 2nd.
Edit: Check it out: http://www.livescore.com/euro.dll?page=rules
Rule (c) (Greater number of goals scored in the matches between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal)) comes before rule (d) (Goal difference in all the group matches.).

 

Perhaps you forget that if the match between Denmark and Sweden e.g. ends with a 1-1 draw then Italy needs to beat Bulgaria with 3 goals or 3-1, 4-2 and so on, and Italy have actually never ever scored more than 2 goals at the Euro finals ...

 

10% chance of 2-2, 3-3 or higher draw or Italy screwing up against Bulgaria.
Which game is on first anyways? Den-Swe?

 

Ah...well Im a pessimist

 

Winning by 2 goals is enough, since tie breaker (f) is: Coefficient of points from the last two qualifying competitions for the final rounds of the 2002 World Cup and Euro 2004 (points gained and divided by the number of matches played).
Italy leads here, so a tie on every score would see Italy through.
Also, in case of 0-0, and with an Italy win, Italy is through.

 

Ah....even less chance of anyone holding back then.

 

http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19079.pdf

 

h) Drawing of lots


God that would be a gay way to decide the winner