Italian All-Time Draft Discussion Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Italy' started by Cassano, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    that was voted the second best goal that season. rijkaards goal against napoli was first. totos bicycle kick from the edge of the box, who everyone thought would win, was third. that goal by Vialli was classic. he was very tough and unafraid as a player. always gave it his all.
     
  2. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Do you know any websites which have any summaries or clips of the goals? If not, would you be able to give me some details of the Rijkaard goal?
     
  3. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    i dont know anything like that. i have that game on tape. milan won 5-0. gullit gets the ball on the right centre of midfield. he passes long and hig up to van basten who is standing with his back against goal about 20 meters out. he takes it down perfectly with a defender on his back. rijkaard makes a run and van basten flicks the ball through and rijkaard finishes low and hard on the volley close to the left post.
     
  4. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Here are some links to goals of already selected players:

    Roberto Baggio
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/baggio.htm

    Alessandro Del Piero
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/delpiero.htm

    Roberto Mancini
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/mancini.htm

    Gianni Rivera
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/rivera.htm

    Francesco Totti
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/totti.htm

    Gianfranco Zola
    http://www.numeri10.it/html/inumeri10/giocatori/menu/zola.htm

    When you click on the link, select "Filmati" (Rivera doesn't have Filmati, just his "Scheda" and photos) , and enjoy.
     
  5. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bettega wasn't Italy's best player at Argentina '78.
     
  6. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  7. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If our team didn't already have Antognoni, we would surely
    have swooped for the Prince. He's a Roma legend (Totti had
    a picture of Giannini on his wall when growing up, they say).
    Great pick. :)

    I really think that Italy have suffered for a lack of midfielders
    like Giannini in recent years. He had true class and could link
    defense and attack. Two-way battlers like Tardelli have also
    been lacking. But, maybe De Rossi and Aquilani will develop into
    world-class players. That would be great.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It is obviously subjective, but Bettega was awesome in 78, he scored two goals and created lots of chances. Rossi scored three goals, he was more of a poucher, though, not as much involved in creating. But certainly Bettega-Rossi was a partnership that worked.

    You might be thinking of Causio, who also had a great cup, or maybe Scirea. The defense was very solid. Really, several players already picked in this draft played well in 78. Benetti as well. Had it not been for the loss to Holland, in an excellent match which could have gone either way, they would have been finalists. And they'd beaten Argentina in the group stage already.

    So, tell us, who's the one you had in mind? (assuming its somebody who's been picked already, of course).
     
  9. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think it's a bit of a myth that Rossi was just a poacher. He assisted
    Bettega's great goal vs. Argentina and created Causio's goal vs. Brazil,
    in addition to scoring three of his own. You can't ask a striker to do
    more than score goals and create chances and Rossi did those things
    in '78. The other mark against Bettega for me (speaking of the '78 WC,
    again) was his performance vs. W. Germany. Italy might have gone to
    the final if he had just put away some of the sitters that game. But he
    didn't and everything thus came down to the Austria and Holland matches,
    and Rossi scored in the Austria match while Bettega faded. I'm being
    harsh but there you have it.

    I also think Scirea could get a shout for his '78 performance, he was
    definitely class.
     
  10. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Canzano and Tottino are up, by the way.
     
  11. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  12. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Zambrotta was taken. Definitely one of the most versatile players Italy has ever seen. He actually started out as a center-midfielder at Bari, then he was moved to the wing, and then we was converted into a fullback. He really can play anywhere.

    Spartak/Hawkz are up next.
     
  13. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Zambrotta's been world-class for three years--good pick.
    He's also the perfect professional and team player, never
    gives less than 100 percent.

    And, if you'd seen a picture of Zambrotta's wife, you'd know
    why he never complains. :)
     
  14. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We won't be making our pick tonight as Hawkz and I haven't crossed paths today. But tomorrow it should be up.
     
  15. Tottino

    Tottino Member+

    Mar 19, 2005
    Frosinone, Italia
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Zambrotta is an amazing player, he can play any position, im happy we got him. I wasn't surprised to say the least, I think our whole team played for Juve if im not mistaken..lol
     
  16. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry.
     
  17. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So you think that Rossi was Italy's best player at Argentina 78?
     
  18. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So today we hope to finish up the round and then we can start on schedule on Monday.
     
  19. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Let's try to keep moving, fellas. Spartak?
     
  20. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pick is coming up.
     
  21. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our backline is coming along very well ;)

    Tassotti---------Maldini------Picchi--------Facchetti
     
  22. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Just to clarify. :D

    Dante and Greggs are up.
     
  23. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting note:

    3 of the 4 defenders on my team at least once captained his club to a European Cup triumph(C. Maldini 1963, Picchi 1964, 1965, and Tassotti 1994). And the 4th defender(Facchetti) captained Italy to the 1968 European Championship win and the 1970 World Cup Runners-up.
     
  24. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Dante and Greg had a nice pick with Anastasi, who rounds out
    their attack (which already includes Meazza and Sandro Mazzola).

    Our team went for Roberto Rosato, a great defender of the mid 60s
    to early 70s, which is really Italy's most famous period in terms of
    defensive prowess. Rosato was a great man-marker and stopper and
    we like that he can be used as a right-back as well. :)

    Duck and Berga are up now.
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If we look at the highlights of the goals, Sempre is right, the way he described them. But my memory (although it was a long time ago and I was a teenager), is that when it came to Italy, everybody in Argentina, from the magazines like El Grafico to the fans, was talking mostly about Bettega. Maybe because he tended to be more spectacular the way he played? Who knows.

    At any rate, we can say that the Bettega/Rossi combo worked very well, for the most part, with five goals between the two of them. Although it's true that Bettega missed some easy chances in the key match against West Germany.
     

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