Italian All-Time Draft Discussion Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Italy' started by Cassano, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Here's the second Discussion thread. Continue...
     
  2. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Nice pick with Collovati to conclude the 6th round. We're
    more than half-way through and now we can spend some
    time analyzing the teams thus far.

    Cassano - you don't mention this in the profile, but Fulvio
    missed a penalty kick that sent Italy out of Euro '80 IIRC.
    Not that he's unique there, Italian players have no great
    record in penalty shoot-outs.

    Bergomi and Collovati is a decent pairing, but you may be
    a little weak in terms of full-backs and in filling out your MF
    with some steel.
     
  3. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He did miss, but he didn't take one by choice. The final score was 9-8 (long shootout), and Collovati was forced to take the 9th shot, as the shootout rules state that every player must take a kick before the cycle starts again.

    You can see the whole shoot-out recap here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_European_Football_Championship
     
  4. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    As I recall, Zoff was next in line if Collovati had made his!
     
  5. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah, he was second to last and the goalkeepers were next. And if Zoff and the Czech keeper had scored, they would've had to start all over again!
     
  6. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Collovati is a great pick and his hair really stood out. He is a very underrated defender and he was brilliant at CB in the 1982 World Cup. Fulvio was just as vital in defence as Scirea, Cabrini and Gentile. He should have played at more major tornaments. A class act.

    I never knew that De Sisti played for that many seasons with Roma. I've usually associated him with Fiorentina even though he didn't play there for his whole career. An important player form the WC 1970 side and Fiorentina's 1969 scudetto win.

    Filling the midfield with steel will be hard but there are some full-backs from the 30s who should get drafted. I'll be surprised if they don't get drafted.
     
  7. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    im sorry but i dont get it. we are not drafting to talk about our picks? is anyone not capable of picking a player and discuss at the same time?
     
  8. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm not really sure what Sempre has in mind. He didn't elaborate.
     
  9. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    well shouldnt he elaborate for him to stop everything?
     
  10. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well, we weren't able to finish the 6th round last week as
    Easter was approaching. So, what I suggested then (and I
    recall that everyone agreed to this) was that we use this
    week for the 6th round and to discuss our teams so far. I
    felt we could then get back on track next week with the
    original schedule of 2 picks per week, Monday-Thursday.

    However, I'm not married to this idea and if people have
    other suggestions please make them. Whatever we do, we
    should try to get back to our original schedule next Monday.
     
  11. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    OK. So - here's a thought: would everyone be able to make
    their 7th picks by Friday? If so, we could get back on track
    Monday of next week with the original schedule. If that's not
    possible I suggest we wait till then .... as I say, we need to
    return to the original schedule, meaning we can't begin the
    week in mid-round. Thoughts?
     
  12. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    well the way i see it, if people cant keep the schedule this early then they certainly wont be able to when we get down to the more difficult picks in the later rounds. i say we keep picking. whoever cant keep the schedule should have their pick relegated til the end of the draft. everyone knew what they signed up for. if you dont have time to pick two players in four days then you shouldnt have signed up. the only good reason ive heard for a delay so far was dantes unfortunate situation.
     
  13. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    me and berga could make all our picks in two hours if needed ;)
     
  14. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If this is OK with the majority we'll finish the 7th round
    this week and do 8 and 9 next week on the regular sched.

    Can I hear some more opinions here?
     
  15. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I say we keep chugging along. As long as we get picks in, I don't think it matters that we follow a set schedule. We know the draft order (except for me;) ), so we can just follow along. I don't think we need to use that first schedule we came up with.
     
  16. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The schedule helps. Let's see if we can do the 7th round by
    Friday, okay? Start us up, Cassano.
     
  17. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ok, I have started up the 7th round. I Divini are up.
     
  18. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That's three central defenders by my count. Hmm. Interested
    to see what you guys are up to ....
     
  19. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Actually, Cervato is an attacking left-back that can play center-back.
     
  20. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I Divini is ready with our seventh pick. I just will take a few minutes to prepare the profile that this player deserves. This pick, like the last one, was unanimous, and we're all very pleased with our team so far.

    BTW, we didn't get any feedback on our last pick. I think De Sisti, paired with Monti, gives us a very strong midfield.
     
  21. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We always get the least amount of feeback on our picks, we're the sleepers of the tournament.
     
  22. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well, Bettega is a nice option as a quick forward. I can see
    him forming a nice trio with Totti and Vieri.
     
  23. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Me too... Muahahaha
     
  24. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Didn't even notice anyone got Cervato. I salute you guys. He's one I really hoped would be around later. BTW: I have always thought of him as a LB.
     
  25. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bettega is selected. Finally! He was our best player at Argentina 78 and probably would have starred at Espana 82, therefore leaving out Rossi. Bettega is another true Juve legend and if it weren't fo the defensive nature of the Italian game in the 1970s, he could have reached Boniperti's record before ADP.

    Totti, Bettega and Vieri. What a tridente! Totti and Vieri better not let Bettega do all the hard work if you know what I'm saying. ;)

    Cervato is a fine pick. One of the best players in the Serie A in the 1950s. He was part of one the strongest defences ever in Italy. He will give the attack some extra depth when necessary.

    Here's a link to a Gianluca Vialli goal:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb7Qpswy-hs&search=gianluca vialli

    In the 1991-92 season for Sampdoria against Bari, a long range shot bounces off both posts. As the ball bounced off the second post, Vialli slides down to the ground rapidly, his body is parallel to the ground and Vialli headers the ball in. It was a bold dive.
     

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