Isreali ambassador trashes art exhibit.

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  1. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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  2. obie

    obie New Member

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    Yes I can.
     
  3. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Those artists are sick, and this is a hate crime. I would expect any decent person to do the same. Someone has to stand up to the Nazi state that is Europe.
     
  4. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I don't care how disgusting the art might've appeared to the ambassador, there was no reason to destroy it.

    Period.

    He committed vandalism.
     
  5. el_urchinio

    el_urchinio Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    Art is now hate crime? Expression is hate crime? Man, the survining members of NWA ought to be tried for inspiring and starting a genocide, then.
     
  6. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    It would have been more artistic if he blew the exhibit up.
     
  7. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    :)
     
  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Yes you can. There's nothing more fascistic than to insist that something has only one meaning... yours. It's hard to tell from the picture, but I suspect the actual thing is a bit more ambiguous than simply being a memorial for a suicide bomber. And if that's all it is, then it's crap art. Let oblivion take care of it, which it would by the time the exhibition ended, if not sooner. Instead, the attache did nothing but draw more attention to it.

    From the article:

    "One of the two artists who created the work, Israeli-born Dror Feiler, said Ambassador Mazel had "tried to stop free speech and free artistic expression from being carried out in Sweden".

    "He said he was ashamed that I was a Jew," Mr Feiler said, adding: "We see this as an offensive assault on our right to express our thoughts and feelings."

    Too bad that those nazi jews are over-running Europe, huh, brassmonkey? Maybe you should get someone to read the article to you next time.
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Re: Re: Isreali ambassador trashes art exhibit.

    By your logic, American slavery wasn't racist because some of the slaves were sold by blacks.

    You can find crackpots in any group. The issue is the museum promoting his work, especially during an anti-genocide conference. Cynically finding a Jew to do their dirty work is not a point in their favor.
     
  10. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    If it had been a peice of "art" that was saying that we should kill all muslims you guys would be all over it. Its not art when it supports the notion that its ok to kill innocent people. That would be like my having the right to go to a gays house and carry a sign around(on the sidewalk) that says "kill all Faggs". It would be alright if I said it was art, right? :rolleyes: Just because one of the artist was jewish doesnt mean he isnt anti semetic. There were Jews who helped the Nazis to save thier own skin.
     
  11. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    How do you know what it supports? How do you have any clue what was in their heads when they created it?

    And regardless, it was wrong for the ambassador to destroy it. I don't care what level of offense he took. I've seen some Jackson Pollock pieces that made me want to put a knife through the canvas, but I managed to keep my desire to do so in check.
     
  12. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    What are you, retarded? Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. If somebody painted a swastika on my door, that means I cant paint over it, because I dont know what it means?
     
  13. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    And now we come to an even better understanding as to why there will never be peace between the Israelis and Palestinians.

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Why, because the innocent Israelis dont know whats it means when the suicide bombers are blowing them up? There will never be peace because of guys like you who support these terrorists.This tolerance of anti semetism is what causes the suicide bombings. The suggestion that its ok to glorify these demons.
     
  15. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Hipocrite.
     
  16. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Get a grip, Mike doesn't support the terrorists.
     
  17. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    He supports the people who support the terrorists. If he was a decent human bieng he would be cheering on anybody that tried to stop this disgusting hate crime
     
  18. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    How? In what way am I a hipocrite (sic)? I have never advocated vandalism.
     
  19. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    You're right. I give thousands of dollars every year to the PLO and to Hamas. I hope they completely destroy Israel.

    Moron.
     
  20. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Your a hypocrit because you say that you are for peace but you applaud a hate crime
     
  21. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Art is not a hate crime. Sorry.

    The ambassador was wrong for destroying it, no matter how he reacted to it emotionally.
     
  22. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    You dont have to give money to somebody to support them moron :rolleyes:
     
  23. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    What hate crime are you talking about, you idiot?
     
  24. brassmonkey

    brassmonkey Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    I guess those paintings of Saddam in Iraq everywhere were art, and shouldnt have been destroyed. I guess the Nazi flags shouldnt have been destoyed after WW2. They were art, right? This was just as much art as a Nazi flag. Putting something up that says its ok to kill Jews for no reason is a HATE CRIME
     
  25. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Again, how do you know the creators of the art the ambassador destroyed were trying to say it's ok to kill Jews?

    No one knows what message they were trying to convey, apart from the artists themselves.

    I guess that's a lttle over your head.
     

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