Israeli art students move north

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by krolpolski, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. krolpolski

    krolpolski Member+

  2. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Damn, the plot is foiled. No 9-11 for Canada.
     
  3. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I firmly believe this is a CIA-Mossad joint operation to root out and expose loony toon conspiracy theorists.

    Apparently, it's a success so far.
     
  4. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    Which conspiracy theory?

    You mean canadian CSIS suspect that they could be spies is a conspiracy theory?

    btw nothing strange, anyone knows that Mossad is a very active spy agency.

    I understand your indignation Ben and Dfb. This antisemitic attack against israeli art sellers, first in the USA, now in Canada, is a scandal.

    They want to ethnically clean the world of art selling in northern america.
     
  5. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I expect Mossad is very active (otherwise Israel goes bye-bye), but not so stupid as to have dozens of people going door to door in the most conspicous way imaginable, getting apprehended in city after city ("But that's the brilliance of it!. Make them look so ridiculous that people won't believe they're spies. BWAHAHAHAHA")

    I don't want to criticize your favorite anti-Zionist web sites, but this is being portrayed in a curious way. You know, wink, wink, those Israelis knew something about 9-11- maybe even blew up the WTC! Puh-lease.

    Oh, one other thing. Everytime I go to Italy I see hundreds of African spies (you know, peddling cheap art, looking suspicious, all the telltale signs), especially in Florence. There may be a connection with Israel. You need to look into that.
     
  6. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU


    You should read the proposed links.

    I guess CSIS is more reliable than your "feeling".

    This means only they were spying as other national spy agencies do. No conspiracy theory.

    Simple inoffensive covers are the best. It all depends on what you want to do. To gather infos this was a good trick.

    This is just a sequel of the US antispy operation.
    Probably canadian CSIS has decided to look if they also had some weird "art student" around.

    I rarely read salon.com, most of the times just because someone here puts a link.

    While africans escape starvation, israelis don't come from third world.
    Anyway I guess they are al qaeda spies and they don't go to sensible places to sell "art".

    Ben, Those were israeli spies. No conspiracy theories added.

    Now Ben explain me why you're so fond of censorship when there's some bad (or better something you consider to be bad) news about Israel.
     
  7. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    "In particular, the DEA"

    What interest would Israel have in spying on DEA activities?

    Like Ben said, the Mossad is certainly spying on the US and Canada (just as US and Canadian intelligence is spying on Israel, and each other for that matter), but trust me, they don't do it in such an obvious manner.

    Which brings me to the often-heard conspiracy theory that 9/11 was obviously a Mossad plot because Israeli nationals were filming the attacks and were heard cheering in the background (curious, I've never actually seen this tape). Now, whether or not you like Israel, you cannot deny that the Mossad is an extremely capable and professional intelligence organization, without a doubt one of the top 4 in the world (along with the CIA, MI-6, and Russian Intelligence, altho I have no idea what order you would put those in). Do you really think that if Mossad agents had planned the 9/11 attacks, they would be standing on a rooftop of a neighboring building cheering them??
     
  8. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I promise you that I'm against censorship and was not the Mossad agent responsible for getting the article off the Ottawa Sun web site. They won't let me do things like that yet.

    Actually, please explain why you believe every negative story about Israel regardless of the lack of evidence. There is no evidence that they're Mossad spies. There are questions, but no answers. There is no way a rational human can say "Ben, Those were israeli spies. " There are numerous of other explanations that are more likely than Mossad agents getting caught left and right. The only thing we know for a fact is that there are Israelis illegaly working in the USA and Canada. BTW, one of the first things we did after 9-11 was to kick thousands of Mexicans out of the country. That sure made me feel safer.

    If they are Mossad agents, I'm very worried about Israel.

    Lastly, either your ridiculously naive or intentionally ignoring the purpose of the stories. Most of the time this is tied in with 9-11 (75.9% of the time a direct reference is made).
     
  9. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
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    CSIS beign reliable?

    I'll wait till a stop laughing till I can post a better response.
     
  10. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    Ever heard about XTC smuglers?
     
  11. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Good point, I hadn't thought about that. A LOT of XTC rings in the US are run by Israeli nationals.
     
  12. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    I would say most of them... :(

    Anyway Mossad agents won't be walking around with Israeli passports
     
  13. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    A bit off topic, but an interesting read:
    http://www.maximonline.com/grit/articles/article_4010.html

    Heh, good point.
     
  14. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    If it is the normal procedure in the US and Canada to send away foreign XTC smugglers and not to arrest them and then after a trial, jail them, it could be an accetable explanation, Barnash.

    But why not say it? "International group of XTC smugglers discovered", a good news title (oh well, the idea, put in proper english).

    Also it is hard to believe they went to the DEA to perform their activity...
     
  15. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    OK you didn't get the point.

    Lets put it this way:
    They are spies of the smuglers.
     
  16. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    I see. It is a good point.

    But the question remains why the secret? Why haven't they been arrested, faced a tribunal and then jailed?
     
  17. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    Jailed on what charges?
     
  18. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    Trials are made just for this. Before you do investigations and so on...

    Anyway, spying and mafia.
     
  19. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    And how they gonna proof that?

    All the got is some art students trying to sell their art in weird places
     
  20. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    By collecting evidences.

    If they lacked they would have been discharged but nonetheless expelled.

    It could have been a good way to try to destroy israeli XTC smugglers' organization in the US.

    And btw how do you know for sure they had no evidences?
     
  21. Barnash_haviv

    Barnash_haviv New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Israel
    I don't, I base my things on what they said.

    Anyway they werent Mossad agents for sure
     

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