Islamophobe to preach at Pentagon - Good Friday

"Islamophobe"????

Good God, ANOTHER stereotype for liberals to hate.

Of course, if he had said that Christianity is an "evil religion" why then he'd be a) correct and b) exercising his right to "free speech and c) welcome anytiome.

Do you never get tired of the hypocrisy?

 

We just hate everything you stand for, Bill. It's a real time-saver.

 

Give me a break. It's Good Friday, one of the most important Christian holidays, who are they going to get to speak, Louis Farakan?

 

Malaga, how hard would it be to find a Christian preacher who hasn't called Islam a wicked religion?

We're rubber, you're glue. Everything you say is the simplest-to-diagnose projection.

 

I believe he rode in on the coattails of his more famous and eloquent father.

Regardless, I doubt he will be speaking about Islam on Good Friday. Maybe a bad choice, but a bit of a knee jerk reaction by folks who probably won't be in attendance at the service anyway.

 

Why is ANYONE "preaching" in ANY official capacity at the Defense Department at all???

 

The irony of who posted the original story and Bill's whine about said post is hilarious.

If nothing else, mono_poly has proven one of the most outspoken proponents of what can be safely called "conservative" Christianity on Politics.

<insert Ann Coulter/Bush "Crusade" quote/Pat Robertson joke here>

 

Irrelevant and ironic given many Americans' (including Mr. Graham, apparently) lumping of all Muslims into one boat and treating asshats like bin-Laden as the official voice of Islam.

F. Graham is a dumb choice, especially since it's not like there aren't any better candidates out there that could have been invited.

 

Well I did try to be as exact as possible by saying "conservative" and not "fundamentalist". Judging strictly by our past arguments (since I really have nothing else with which to judge), I'd guess you're more conservative than my decidedly liberal Presbyterian and COC minister friends. "Conservative" in this case was meant strictly as a technical description and not a slam, btw. Just to be clear.

 

You mean it's possible to use words like "liberal" or "conservative" without meaning it as an insult?

 

Nice...

 

Malaga, I see you're from New Hampshire. I hope I'm not stereotyping when I say this.

I don't think you're aware of the place of Franklin in evangelical Christianity, and, therefore, Bush's political base.

I think a decent analogy would be if Jesse Jackson had made his "Hymietown" remark a year or two ago, and had not really repudiated it, and President Gore had him speak. If I were a Jew, that would piss me off. And as an American, it would piss me off.

 

No problem Superdave, I'm actually not originally from here, look at the teams I support, that will give you an idea.

I am well aware of who Franklin is within Christian circles, but it's hard not to see him for his more famous father (I've even visited the Billy Graham museum at Wheaton College, but that's for another time...). As a Christian, I don't agree with many of Franklin's comments, but I don't think he was going there to speak at all about Islam either.

Being that in the military, regardless of faith (Protestant, Catholic, Jew, Muslim, etc...) people do hold strongly to their beliefs, I'm not surprised that they would invite a fundamentalist preacher. Religion is an inherently difficult topic, you are almost always going to offend (I believe Christ was executed, he certainly didn't step on any toes, did he?) You can't please everybody, but the timing on this one is bad, I can't disagree with that. Another time (and I bet he's spoken at the Pentagon before) and this isn't even a news event.

 

As a conservative atheist, I'm happy to see Christians calling Islam a wicked religion.

According to Graham and his ilk, they're going to hell with the rest of us slobs, so what's the big deal?

And there's no shortage of Islamic preachers calling us wicked infidels, so why not annoy them a little?

Put Jerry Falwell up there on Easter to call Mohammed a few more names, while you're at it.

Theologically, though, I am in a quandry: if the Christians are right, I will spend eternity in hell next to bin Laden. If the Muslims are right, I will spend eternity in hell next to Falwell. But if I convert to Christianity, I will spend eternity in heaven next to Falwell and if I convert to Islam I will spend eternity in paradise with bin Laden. Decisions, decisions.......

 

I don't think you'd be too concerned with Falwell in heaven. He's far too boring and heaven is about joy, intimacy and discovery of God face to face.

Most Christians wouldn't consider Falwell a model of Christianity much like most Muslims wouldn't consider Bin-Laden the second coming of Mohammed.

 

malaga...it's irrelevant that he wasn't going to talk about Islam. How would you feel as a Muslim soldier if a man who called your religion "wicked" was speaking at a Pentagon function?

The first amendment...not just a good idea, it's the law.

I dunno...maybe that none of those assclowns have been invited to speak at the Pentagon?!?!?!

 

So you're the guy making these decisions? How do you find the time, being omnipresent and stuff? Why are you posting on a soccer board instead of healing the sick?