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Discussion in 'Spirituality & Religion' started by Pro-Freedom, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Pro-Freedom

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    Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) forgave the pagans of Mecca (after he had taken it over) who had previously waged war on him and killed/tortured Muslims. He held peaceful debates with Christians in Mosques, gave charity to non-Muslims and forgave those who insulted him, the list goes on and on. These are just things the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) did, and ISIS never has done.

    As for your question, ISIS burnt people alive, the Prophet (pbuh) never did. ISIS killed non-Muslim journalists who were given protection by Muslims, Muhammed (pbuh) never would kill anyone whom a Muslim has vouched for them. etc etc Shall we now compare ISIS to your Old Testament and put that question back to you?
     
  2. Pro-Freedom

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    The TRUE principles and the roots of terrorism.



     
  3. Pro-Freedom

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    "Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves." Qur'an 13:11
     
  4. Pro-Freedom

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    Amazing recitation by sheikh Abdul Basit, one of the must renowned reciters of Quran.
     
  5. Pro-Freedom

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    "Do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness" Muhammed (pbuh)
     
  6. Pro-Freedom

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    Another amazing recitation!

     
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  8. Pro-Freedom

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    “This World is like a shadow. If you try to catch it, you will never be able to do so. If you turn your back towards it, it has no choice but to follow you !” - Ibn Qayyim
     
  9. JC-14

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  10. JC-14

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    Mohammed ordered the burning of people.

    In Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:
    Volume 1, Book 11, Number 626:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr [pre-dawn] and the 'Isha' [evening] prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama [second call to prayer] and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."

    As for your second point, those muslims are conveniently considered "hypocrites". Obviously any muslim who defied mohammed was not a true muslim.

    Not my book. I'm not dumb enough to be religious.
     
  11. Pro-Freedom

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    http://www.questionsonislam.com/que...phet-pbuh-if-prayer-congregation-not-attended

    https://abuaminaelias.com/did-the-prophet-burn-down-peoples-houses-for-missing-the-prayer/

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/arts-and-books/napalm-america-korea-japan-vietnam

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/tokyo-firebombing-world-war-ii/
     
  12. Pro-Freedom

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  13. JC-14

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    The first source claims he only burned men and not women and children as if that makes him less evil. However, the text does not say "men" but "all those who had not left their houses". Also claims this was his was of encouraging people to go to congregation. Pathetic.

    Your second source simply changes the text to "I would like to burn those people". As if that isn't some sick thoughts.

    What's your point? People do evil shit so it's okay for Islam and muhammad to be evil too?
     
  14. JC-14

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    Are you allowed as a muslim to lie about the content of your religion?

    Here is the entire verse, it's descriptive not prescriptive:

    I met `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As and asked him, "Tell me about the description of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) which is mentioned in Torah (i.e. Old Testament.") He replied, 'Yes. By Allah, he is described in Torah with some of the qualities attributed to him in the Qur'an as follows: "O Prophet ! We have sent you as a witness (for Allah's True religion) And a giver of glad tidings (to the faithful believers), And a warner (to the unbelievers) And guardian of the illiterates. You are My slave and My messenger (i.e. Apostle). I have named you "Al-Mutawakkil" (who depends upon Allah). You are neither discourteous, harsh Nor a noisemaker in the markets And you do not do evil to those Who do evil to you, but you deal With them with forgiveness and kindness. Allah will not let him (the Prophet) Die till he makes straight the crooked people by making them say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah," With which will be opened blind eyes And deaf ears and enveloped hearts."
     
  15. JC-14

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    What has this got to do with Islam?
     
  16. Pro-Freedom

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    "In conclusion, the Prophet did not burn down anyone’s house for missing the prayer." It's a figure of speech. You seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel here. People in the west regularly used idioms like you'll "kill" someone if they do something unwanted. Doesn't mean it's literal, does it? or that they actually would do it, or did do it.
     
  17. Pro-Freedom

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    A human without a purpose has no reason.

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  18. Pro-Freedom

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    "The most difficult of actions are four - forgiving when in a state of anger, contentment in times of hardship, chastity in seclusion, and speaking the truth in front of someone whom one fears." Ali (ra)
     
  19. Pro-Freedom

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  20. JC-14

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    Certainly I decided to order the muadhdhin to pronounce adhan and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.

    "figure of speech". Lol. Do you even believe yourself?

    He also decapitated children, raped little girls and had (sex)slaves. How delusional does one have to be to believe he was any better of man than our current isis pigs.
     
  21. Pro-Freedom

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    The Prophet peace be upon him emphasized the importance of congregational prayer in many ways. For example, he said that even if one can only get to the prayer by crawling, he should do so. He did not literally burn anyone's house down, though that's what you tried to convey with that mistranslation. Nice try though.
     
  22. Pro-Freedom

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  23. JC-14

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    It's a Muslim source. And they all translate it in that way. Except for that one misleading source you found. Next you're going to claim death is not the penalty for apostasy.

    Also doesn't change the fact that Muhammad committed war crimes, raped and murdered children and had slaves. He was in the same category of evil as Hitler and Stalin.
     
  24. Pro-Freedom

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    "Everyone who is taken by death asks for more time, while everyone who still has time makes excuses for procrastination." - Ali (ra)
     

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