Ummm.... did you forget about Allegiant stadium? Also, Cashman Field is not likely going to be around much longer either: https://lvsportsbiz.com/2026/01/21/...al-to-allow-lennar-to-build-home-development/
Cashman was bought by Lennar, a home builder who intends to put up affordable housing on the property. The Lights need a new home anyway. So, this may surprise you, but Las Vegas has a 65,000 dome on the Strip, Allegiant Stadium. It has hosted the Super Bowl, Copa America (I was there for Brazil-Paraguay) the US Men’s National Team won Concacaf Nations League there in 2021, I believe. I mean I was there when we beat Mexico and Weston had his shirt torn. I think we have a suitable short-term stadium. I’ve seen Chelsea-Club America and Juventus-Chivas there, along with a couple Raiders games and the final PAC-12 Champonship football game. The prospective new stadium locations, which were outlined in the Review-Journal’s article, are both on the Strip. It’s really cute reading all the Vegas Isn’t Ready, Vegas is a Tourist Town musings. We certainly are a tourist town, and probably one of the best in the world. Which is why you all fly here to the desert, drop off your money and go home. Assuming nobody lives here. Keep it up fellas.
#BCLions President Duane Vienneau tells @GlobalBC Sports Lions are currently in negotiations with PAVCO and will have a new lease in place prior to July 25th game “everything going well.”— JAY JANOWER (@JayJanower) May 16, 2026 BC Lions negotiating a new lease as well......
Article about that below Reminder PavCo controls major game-day revenue sources, including parking, concession, and alcohol sales, as well as potentially lucrative stadium naming rights and all concert revenue. The company reportedly makes $1.5 million in profit from their current arrangement with the Whitecaps, but offered the team a proposal in February which would have seen the stadium operate at net zero revenue going forward. That deal was rejected. The most likely outcome for the Lions The details of the B.C. Lions’ current lease agreement with BC Place have not been reported, but they are believed to be similar to the Whitecaps’ deal. The CFL franchise has remained publicly silent about the ongoing situation until now, but could benefit financially from the efforts being made to keep the MLS in Vancouver. Governments may be wary of bending over backwards for one local sports team while disadvantaging another. Difference in attendance The Lions average attendance was 27,124 last season, the third highest in the CFL. The Whitecaps averaged 21,806 fans per game, which was 13th in the MLS. B.C. Lions negotiating new stadium lease amidst Vancouver Whitecaps crisis: reporthttps://t.co/qZ25vX4iBa(H/T @JayJanower)#CFL #BCLions #RoarAsOne #Vancouver #Whitecaps #MLS pic.twitter.com/W05p2MJvAZ— 3DownNation (@3DownNation) May 16, 2026
With regards to attendance between the Lions and Whitecaps, does the upper bowl of BC Place get opened up routinely for CFL games? For most of the MLS home games in Vancouver, the upper decks are closed off.
According to Robert Borden, the Lions average about 27,100 per game, while the Whitecaps average nearly 21,800 per contest. I thought the capacity at the lower bowl was in the neighborhood of 25k, but I don't know. I also don't know if the field configurations for each sport are so vastly different that the lower bowl seating capacity would be impacted much.
Last season the BC Lions got: 52,837 v Edmonton 20,138 v Winnipeg 28,983 v Sasquatch Ewan 22,438 v Hamilton 23,318 v Montreal 19,803 v Ottawa 21,205 v Toronto 28,308 v Calgary 26,308 v Edmonton Post season 26,383 v Calgary Lower bowl capacity is 27,695 CFL average including playoffs 26,972 MLS average including playoffs 24,043 Cumulative regular season plus playoffs CFL 269,271 MLS 456,810 Cumulative all competitions Lions 269,271 Whitecaps 590,325
I was listening to a podcast that allowed me to put a number to this. It's a US stat, but still food for thought: 49% of all consumption in the US is coming from the top 10% of the wealth distribution 60% of all consumption in the US is coming from the top 20% of the income distribution (income cutoff of about 175k)
IF they allow whichever group buys Vancouver to move the team to Las Vegas then the league would in fact lose out on an expansion fee that will be well north of $500M. Expansion fees get redistributed equally amongst the existing owners, where as the sale of the team goes to that teams original owners. Now, the group that buys Vancouver may in fact pay less than $500M for the Caps, however, if they then move them to Vegas (or any other market), MLS would likely charge a fairly hefty relocation fee. That could put the price ABOVE what a potential expansion fee could be.
Ugh. Let me explain again. Let's say MLS decides to expand to 32 teams, at $500M each. Total would be $1B. If Vancouver moves to Vegas, MLS will not stop at 31 teams. The next city on the list will pay the $500M for team 32. MLS will not lose a dime, much less $500M.
Sure, but at some point MLS will stop expanding and they will have gotten one market less expansion fee if Vancouver moves. Is that a big deal right now? Opinions vary. But there are a finite number of MLS markets so filling one by moving a team means they will lose an expansion fee, eventually. (Unless they go back to Vancouver of course, but that seems unlikely)
How would they lose an expansion fee? Unless the number is unlimited, then yes they lose a fee but lets say it's eight, they still get eight fees even if Vancouver isn't one of them. Chances are the number will be two if there is a next round. Regardless if Vancouver does or doesn't have a team, they've already mentioned more than two cities with each one already having a USL team. Las Vegas Sacramento Phoenix Tampa Bay Indianapolis You could probably add in Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Baltimore as possibly on the list if a group came along. Also the 500 million number isn't written in stone, it could be more or less depending on the situation. San Diego had a stadium unlike Vegas that would need to build one.
This makes no sense........ If vancouver moves to Vegas, MLS will still be at 30 teams....... and the league won't get a $500M+ expansion fee for a Vegas team...... Also, each team that's added, the expansion price goes up. The next team added will pay more than $500M. That ,money is to offset the lost % of shjares ion the league for each ownership group, plus the decrease in sponsorship and media money pie due to it being split into more slices.
I should have phrased that better. At some point the league will reach the limit on the markets that can support a team. If they stop expanding before that limit then yes, they won't lose anything. But if they expand up to that limit then they'll have lost the fee from Vegas. Again, in the big picture is that important? Opinions differ. But there is a cost (or a potential cost) to allowing relocation instead of expansion.
Actually NYCFC was 100 million and Orlando, Atlanta were only 70 million, Minnesota matched NYCFC and after that LAFC was when it kept increasing each time. Also I would imagine Miami would be a special situation since there was some kind of discount added, I think. . If they did add two teams for one billion dollars, I wonder if owners of each team would like to invest with the money or just pocket it?
Is there? I'll never say they won't go past a certain number but I don't think they would announce four new teams by 2029/30 the first year of the next media deal. The most likely scenario I would think would be two teams with the possibility of divisions of four teams that could work for the 34 team schedule. If that were to happen you might get a billion dollars plus a relocation fee. So there would actually be a bigger profit instead of a cost.
Miami was $25 million. . The value of each shareholding would go up by $62.5 million over however many years the new teams were given to pay.