Is this a bad joke or what?

I must admit that when I saw this thread title I thought it was about the PSV chairman sucking off Kenyon's rod in the media:

Two words - Boll Ox

Something fishy is going on with Kenyon if you ask me. He could have been sabotaging our transfers for the past couiple of years as well as sullying our name by throwing the monkey screws into our reglar dealings as well. That smug piece or sh1t!

 

George Stein-whiner loses

What's important is this:

The list also shows that United are the richest team of any sport in the world - next in line are baseball's New York Yankees with revenue of £170million.

Piss off, Georgie. We don't need you or your YES Network.

 

i might send kenyon some anthrax flavoured chocolates.

 

Don't you just want to give him a kick in the teeth?

 

Well, I found the spoiled crybabies board....

 

Just a quick note - this isn't actually a list of the "richest" clubs, but rather a list of the clubs who have the most revenue. In other words, it doesn't take spending into account. You could be on this list and actually have lost money last year.

How else would you explain Leeds being in the top 20, when they're headed for administration?

P.S. Since the Yankees YES network numbers are easily underreported for revenue sharing reasons, I'd posit that they actually make far more money than anyone, including Man Utd.

 

How much extra money did Roman pay for the PSV Chairman to slobber all over Kenyon in the papers and drag our name through the mud?

 

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chelski are throwing money down the drain..the wage bill is over must be 40 million a year + they sell hardly any shirts worldwide the brand is weak, the club is small with no history, when was the last time they won anything. when roman gets bored or hits the billion mark hes going to walk out

 

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I don't see why they would do that. Local television revenue in Major League Baseball hardly gets shared at all.

 

You guys have a great club, sell tons of shirts and aren't relying on a single man that may end up being offed by Putin at some point. Good for you.

You are still acting like spoiled crybabies.

 

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I believe 25% of it does. Why bother sharing it if you don't have to? Also, the less the Yankees make, the better it looks for them. Its the same thing with TBS and the Braves - the Braves contract is worth far more than the money the actually get paid for it.

You may have noticed we're 10th on this list. So we're not exactly destitute. And we don't have any debt. We'll be fine. We're both behind Arsenal at the moment, who're just above us on the list. We'll be fine - thanks for the concern.

 

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I'm pretty sure Major League Baseball actually audits these figures, rather than just giving a smile and a nod when a team reports broadcast income.

Plus misreporting large amounts of income could royally screw over the Yankees when it comes to the IRS man. Not that you'd hear me complaining or anything.

 

yeah... and how many EPL titles do u guys have???

 

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You are but that isn't mainly due to the football business, Chelsea Village injects a sizeable amount of revenue into your coffers. Take that away and the picture is very different. Anyway keep up the good work, it's a refreshing change to see Manc's complaining about bully-boy tactics when they've ALWAYS been the biggest spenders in British football. Take away the aberation that was Shearer to Newcastle for £16M Man U have held or been braking transfer records for eons, Fergies-fledgling with-standing.

 

I remember us joking about "which Chelsea will show up this week?"

Now we can ask the same thing, but for obviously different reasons.

 

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Local TV and Radio income is not shared by MLB. The only revenue sharing that goes on in baseball is the luxury tax funds by clubs over the wage "cap". Local TV money has always been a thorn in the side of small market clubs as they will never be able to compete with the Yankees as the NY market is so huge.

And you are spot on concerning the Yankees and Braves and their TV money. The contracts are slightly devalued due to club ownership of the stations, but the value in publicity alone is astonishing. Each of those clubs (in addition to the Cubs) probably increases their income from branded clothing by 30 to 40 percent merely because their fan base is nationwide.

 

SPOT ON COACH! That was a brilliant explination. The Cubs, Yankees, and Braves have everyone of their games nationally televised. Does that study take that into account? How much do you think that kind of publicity cost?

 

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I can absolutely see how ABU-fans would relish the Chelsea spending spree for this reason alone. As much as I hate to see Chelsea and ARSe go for some of our targets, hopefully in the end the result will be that the extra competition forces United to rise even higher than we might've w/o this competition.

What about the idea that baseball plays 100+ more games than soccer teams like United do? This is definitely going to increase the advertising value, butts-in-the-seats, etc. The only thing missing in MLB is teams from outisde of North America. Once the integration of European and/or Asian teams happens (or some sort of championship between the leagues occurs), I wonder if that will help the baseball franchises surpass the soccer franchises on this rich "richest" list? I bet it does...

 

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ABU?...Don't flatter yourself. I'm an Arsenal supporter, the fact that means i want your boys to come a cropper along the way is only due to you being in direct competition with Arsenal, don't fool yourselves into thinking i'd care about the goings on about your club if this were not the case. Of course i'm far from delighted with the situation at Chelsea especially because of the local "rivalry" but as i don't see the Russian leaving them in the lurch anytime soon. I take a light-hearted view of their activites & your fellow Manc's ironic protestations about it, considering you've been pulling the same tricks since i can remember....& the increased level of competition has clearly had a positive affect on your fortunes this season hasn't it.


I have only one major problem with United, and that's the hype. It existed when you were shite and it's worse now that you've had a succesful run in the 90's and surpassed us in terms of domestic success. The fact that you've got your sh!t in order in terms of marketing does not make you the biggest football team in the world, it makes you the best marketable football brand. On the field you have far less historical claim to that than Liverpool domestically & the likes of Ajax, Bayern, Inter, & Barcelona. Who have untop of being succesful in Europe have attracted UNARGUABLY the BEST player's in the world at their peak for decades. Something United have not done or been able to do succesfully. Veron is the only name i can think of, who was widely regarded as top 10 world-class player before signing for you. van Nistelrooy wasn't considered a top-tier player before signing for you & Rio Ferdinand because of the fee could be argued to be one of those but that's hardly comparable to the calibre of players those teams mentioned above can lay claim to.

 

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Anyone-But-United

Good post - you make points that any historical ABU-fan would. And regardless of which team you support, its always enjoyable to see someone with some knowledge of the history of the game (even short as our disuccion is) discuss it without venom and with intelligence in an absolutely partisan forum. I hereby welcome IORP to the Mancunian board anytime Although the use of words like "untop" and "UNARGUABLY" serve as further proof that you aren't a United supporter, I still appreciate the ideas hehe

Regarding Veron - lessons learned... "Happens to the best of 'em" is our response for Fergie. We expected one thing, got something a little different, and I thought United were smart offloading him while we could to a free-spending team (whew! good thing we did too otherwise we might have *another* injured player on our squad). Until United win more UEFA CL championships, everyone in the world is right to challenge their superiority. In fact, until more EPL teams win UEFA CL in recent times, the same statement holds true.

And no more puns about "fortune", please...

 

I know what ABU stands for...i said don't flatter yourself in reponse to you calling me one. .

 

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But they can't. Its impossible to tell just how much the contract is really worth. It certainly doesn't audit the TBS numbers.

Again, this is all perfectly legal. Its the same thing as one company selling something to a subsidiary. You don't HAVE to charge full price, because there's not requirement that you have to sell things at their maximum price.

You're absolutely right - I checked and I was wrong. I had thought 25% was shared, but not so. In the end, however, that revenue does go into the overall revenue pool from which the revenue sharing is determined, IIRC. There is a bit of revenue sharing beyond the wage cap - its just a tiny amount.

Absolutely. The Cubs, despite being such a doormat for so long (hopefully not too much longer ) sell a remarkable amount of merchandise. The A's, for example, who're historically one of the most successful MLB clubs aren't in the same league in terms of merchandising. Having most of the country see your games is an incredible boon.

Er, I'll end this non-footie related discussion now Although I'll stand by my point, which is that the Yankees are likely wealthier since United don't have the same ability to hide their revenue. Still, you folks do all right.