PBP: Is there a way to control the number of foreigners in the league? Stop Wolfsburg ffs

We don't want the Bundesliga to be another EPL. Or else our NT will suffer most like the English NT since young domestic players do not have their chances at all


Last season, i saw an improvement as coaches seemed wager to play with young German players. Grosskreutz, Mueller, Badstuber, Schurrle, Contento, S.Bender, Reinartz, Kroos, Reus, Bargfrede, Moritz, Schmitz, Schieber, Herrmann, Diekmeier, Schwaab, Sippel, Mlapa and co. emerged as a result.

Some of the 1991/1992ers have even become starters for their clubs. Thats a good sign

Now, i m feeling rather bad for the season since Wolfsburg, Dortmund and Schalke for example keep bringing in foreign players.

I realize the EPL, starting from this sason, have started to control the number of foreign players registered in the league. (Each team allow 25 players registered in total. But at least 8 players have to be English, and 4 of them have to be trained in the club's youth academy. Any player at the age of 21 or under does not need to be registered)

I think the Bundesliga never have such regulation. Since the "6+5 rule" is rather unlikely to happen, is there anything the DFB can do?


i think our strikers suffer most. Since clubs tend to think foreign strikers are generally better. Thats why our NT have so few options at CF at the moment, and its hard for German fans to figure out a decent replacement of Klose if he retires.

McClaren is here in the Bundesliga for revenge.

 

Wait, 12 German players contracted n 8 of them had to be trained with German clubs?? so what happen to the other 4 German players? trained in England or other countries?


And are there a maximum number of players registered? For instance the EPL only allow 25players registered for each team(age of 21 or under excluded). If the Bundesliga also only allows 25 players registered, 12 German actually make up half of their roster

But in that case, how can it apply to clubs like Cottbus, Hertha Berlin n now Wolfsburg??

 

What the fxck?

Mr. Sunny boy, u wont think this is a stupid idea to discuss this when there are teams like Wolfsburg n now possibly Schalke(sold Kuranyi n wanna get rid of Westermann for an Uraguan) and 1. FC Köln where they play 9 or more foreign players in their starting lineup

It shouldn't be a trend.

Whoever u are, not sure if u're aware of this but the bundesliga is now "the most foreign players welcomed" league among the top leagues in Europe. EPL have newly set a minimum number of 8 domestic players in each team n only 25 players can be registered each season. It is very close to the UEFA's rules for CL and europa league;
the Serie A have set quota as well. no more than 2 foreign players from outside EU for each team, each season; Spainish leagues also requires at least 8 domestic players among a squad of 25.


Now, there are people like u n ★ ☆ ★ who carelessly forget how the NT suffered back in late 90s. Clubs kept bringing in cheap foreign players and German players werent able to play at all.
Thngs have improved slightly but if no policy is implemented, we may well be another English NT which suffer from lack of quality options.

This DID happen 8-10years ago. U guys should recall how desperate the German NT were many years back n Tobias Willi/ Kai Michalke were the few German players who had regular match practice back then.

People are just forgetting what happened since we're now in a slightly better position.
Thats way too shortsighted

So do u think Beckenbauer and co. cried for "6+5 rules" is an idiotic thing to do then? i think they wanted it for a reason. U can obviously choose not to accpet it, but the "6+5 rule" is proposed to protect domestic players' chances in the league.
As a matter of fact, it will help the German NT a lot if similar regulations are implemented

 

No it doesnt, since i hate the English NT. I really hope the Brits are stupid enough not to realize this

 

No my point was, I like Chelsea n I m fine with them playing with foreign players since I think most English nt footballers are overrated anyway. N I dun care much happened to the epl n epsecially the English nt.

But I like the German nt with a passion. N I dun want 60+% of the players in the bundesliga are foreigners. This will be a repeat of what happened back in 1996-2001, or what the English clubs are currently doin'.

Good example will be schalke selling their captain, one of the few German players inthe roster to HSV, n replace him with Fucile. I see the the trend again.

 

Many of u may disagree but I do think that Beckenbauer n Blatter want the "6+5 rule" for a reason. I know it won't happen but similar regulations should be implemented, especially in the bundesliga. As I've said, Serie a, la liga and now the premier league have limit their number of foreign players in the league ages ago. We only started in 2006. N the bundesliga is still the most " foreign players wlcomed" league among all.

Ok , people here do agree that the NT will suffer from lack of options at CF, for instance. But if u look at how clubs relying on cheap foreign strikers and u'll probably figure out why thre isn't really a good "successor " of Klose in the naional pool.

Leverkusen sold Lasogga, the top scorer of a-junior league last season to herha Berlin, n brought in Jorgenson who's almost just as unproven as a replacement. But then Lasogga scored 4 goals in the last two friendliest and showed a lot of promise;
sukuta-pasu isn't bad but still they've chosen not to take him back after the loan spell;
Werder Bremen's Lennart Thy wont be able to fight into the first team before as there so many expereinced, foreign strikers ahead of him; same applied to Testroet

If he trend continues, I think it will be more than LB n CF become our next problem zone. And at that time, u will understand my concern now, it may not be as funny as some of u may have thought

In bundesliga, only few German strikers have the opportunity to start and have decent amount of playing time:

Bayern: Mueller(as SS), Klose(sub), Gomez(sub)
Leverkusen: Kiessling, Helmes(sub)
Schalke: none since Kuranyi has left
Nurnberg: Schieber
Stuttgart: Cacau
Werder Bremen: Sandro Wagner(sub??)
Mainz: Schurrle(sub, or play out of position)
Hoffenheim: Mlapa (sub)
Koln: Podolski

The rest wont even consider playing with their younger talents. HSV also loaned out Beister despite playing exceptionally well for HSV II last season. He should be given playing time

Schurrle's playing time is also expected to be cut since Mainz have brought in a number of foreign strikers.

CF will be the German NT's main problem in years. Regulations or quotas on foreign players "imported" each season will definitely help

At the moment, each club is required to register 8 German players at least, but if there isn't a maximum of players registered (let's say 25) . this certainly wont help at all.

 

Whatever, i dont see anything wrong for advocating a quota or regulations on foreign players in the Bundesliga.

And i absolutely understand why Der Kaiser, Blatter and co. wanted to implement such rules. Its not quite as stupid as some of u may have thought. One day when clubs follow what Wolfsburg and Schalke do, and the NT will suffer enormously

Do laugh at me, but one day, u guys will understand my concern. And i dont think i have any problem to go against the overuse of foreign players in the league. And i see it becoming more and more popular approach, like it was 13 years ago.

And u cant really know when Sukuta-Pasu, Thy, Testroet, F.Kroos, Shawn Parker and Beister will have their chances since they're not confidently used by the coaches anyway. Lasogga performed so well last season, 25 goals in 25 games for a-Junior, showed a lot of promises in his games. But the first thing Leverkusen could think of was to sell him right after and buy Jorgensson instead. Westermann was alright but sold him so that Schalke can get enough money for Fucile?

Its back to the trand that cheap, yet medicore foreign players are taking domestic players' chances. Again, lack of regulations against foreign players is the problem. Other countires have realized this ages ago.

When u guys are concerning there is no good options or new blood at LB and CF, have u guys asked "why" and realize the core reason?

Do laugh, but i seriously have my concern here. Its ok that u dont understand but if this continues, i bet i'll laugh back at u one day. Eat ur fcking words

 

I m not as stupid as u may have thought. Show some respect. I am just seeing things that u havent been able to see quite yet.

I work as a proprietary trader after graduating in University of Southern California (USC, finance major). So, i am very aware and very sensitive to what happended, day-by-day.

Even in the football, i am having a similar attitude towards it