let's see... Someone stands over him and tells him to stop faking...standard smack in football during a game. A year later, he intentionally tries to injure the same player, jumping cleats first, knee high. Walks out on country in the biggest tourny in the world, comes back and gets kicked off. (regardless of what you think is justified, EVERY SINGLE teammate voted not to accept him back). Walks up behind FELLOW Irishman, and gives him an elbow to the head. No intent to injure obviously, but still, McAteer didn't see him. Those are the actions of a COWARD.
Re: Banned for life? You're obviously confused. We've been talking about REAL LIFE. You know where people don't argue with the referee in favor of the other team, certainly not in favor of the guy who just elbowed you in the back of the head.
Vieira an angel? no. But the point of my original post went over your head. Vieira has recognized that his bad temper was affecting his play and the teams play on the pitch and has made efforts to control his temper. Keane hasn't. In the interview (link posted earlier in thread) Keane even said he would do Haaland(sp?) again and didn't feel any remorse. I don't know what Vieira said on Sunday and if he is guilty then he deserves to be suspended. Both players are great players, and because of thier position in their respective teams will see many cards without having the opposition wind them up. The difference is that one has made an active attempt to change his reputation while the other hasn't. One last thing: Nothing in the Mirror should ever be required reading. NOTHING. Not ever. Not even the comics. Not even the date at the top of the page.
Let's face it, one of the principal aspects of a thread on the Premiership forum is going to be people trying to differentiate what makes their club worth supporting over another club. Most of us have particular reasons why we identify with one team over another - most of which are intangible or emotional. As a partisan observer, I can only view all things surrounding Roy Keane and wonder, what would 'Pool do in this scenario? . . . I would like to think that 'Pool would not accept this type of behavior (and especially the comments) from their team captain. This goes beyond the violence -consider his off-the-field conduct, his prima donnaship and some of the offensive statements that Captain Roy has made in the past about his own fans and their "prawn sandwiches". I would like to think that at 'Pool there would be an upswelling of disagreement from the fans and/or discernment by management, that would result in removing an such offensive person from the squad - stellar play or not. I was glad when Robbie Fowler was moved. He disrespected his team when he blew up at Phil Thompson and could not adjust to a new role. He was not bigger than the team, even if he was "god". I would like to think the 'Pool philosophy was the reason why Anelka and Bowyer were considered - but ultimately decided against. Was it truly contractual reasons, or should we take Rick Parry at his word that Bowyer and his level of commitment were not a good fit for Liverpool? As a partisan, I think the latter. EPL fans criticize Man Utd for being many things: big, brash and willing to do anything to have their way (coach and captain), crass and commercialistic (board), faintly ridiculous and overpaid (players) and [prawn sandwich-eating] opportunistic psychophants (fans). Bearing all this in mind - the Roy Keane situation provides Man Utd critics with objective ammunition to try to justify their sweeping criticism. True, these criticisms may not be reasonable and may be partially motivated by bitterness or envy. But if you are a true Manchester United supporter, they should neither surprise you nor bother you. Unless they have substance. I think it is too soon to say whether or not Man Utd is going to cave in to Roy Keane. I also think there are many Man Utd fans who are witholding judgment against a captain who has been such an inspiration on the pitch. But the club and its fans could silence a lot of the stick they get if they would deal with this situation on its merits, rather than in their "typical" fashion.
And the twat has probably landed himself in even more hot water: http://www.football365.com/All_News/Breaking_News/story_39849.shtml Is the bloke nuts? The only possible conclusion is that he's trying to get himself chucked out of English football. Then he'll go crying to a paper saying "I only told the truth!", boo-hoo.
A Man Yoo fan quoting the Mirror, eh? You know, sometimes the distance from Sold Trafford to whatever nook of the planet they hail from must be measured in more than miles ... Anyway, so there you are, a Mirror reading Man Yoo fan ... Well, OK - CULTURE OF VIOLENCE AND ARROGANCE THREATENS TO DESTROY FERGIE'S EMPIRE It's that whole "brutal honesty" thing again, I presume?
Has anyone seen the lastest extract from Roys book in the sun? I was reading it on BBC teletext this morning. Apparently, hes admitted that he stamped on Garth Southgate at Crystal Palace at the time in the 1995 FA Cup Semi Final for being in his way. One quote was "if a defender is on his backside what can he expect?" has this man always been a genuine lunatic or has he just cracked? He must have always been one to do these things? But he must be more insane to admit them? Funki
Stupid would probably be the better word. I have now changed my tune and i can't wait for ol' Keono to come back. The way McAteer goaded him and got him sent off was hilarious in the fact that Roy Keane was the only one in the whole world who didn't know he was being had. And he was a fellow countryman. Imagine when roy takes the field with people who really don't like him. It is going to be pure comedy watching roy melt down. the taunting that he is going to get on and off the field is going to infuriate him and I can't wait to see how he handles it. My guess is not very well.
Indeed, you can see the veins in his head swelling from pumping so much blood to his tiny brain as he gets infuriated with everyone else on the pitch. He will be like some mad possessed day release patient who’s breaking zone is football. It’s going to be great. I can’t wait to see him being wound by every man and his dog! Funki
I'm looking forward to hearing the opinions of our resident plazzie Mancs when he gets himself sent off against a Real Madrid or a Milan in a crucial Champions League tie, instead of against Sunderland with the game already drawn. How much of a "brutally honest winner" will he be then. You never know - their funny little views may even swing into synch with the real United fans.
Yeah right, I would like to see fergie justify Roy’s actions then to the giant based ‘Kent’ united fan club.
Well that's why all this dribbly, whiny aplogetic hand-wringing on behalf of the Man Yoo "fan"base is so pathetic. Even their Lord, God and Master, the Govan Grump, has come out and said that Keane was completely in the wrong this time.
You can mock United fans all day long, but it just keeps reaffirming how obsessed you are about our club, players, and manager. Ho-ho-ho!
I don't care if my favorite athletes are sociable or role models. I respect Keane only for his playing ability. I will never meet him, nor would I want to, so it doesn't matter what class of nut he is in private or anywhere else but on the field for United and, hopefully, for Ireland. [/B][/QUOTE] Thats what i say, but the problem is that he's behaving like a lunatic ON the pitch. now, i love man U but i can't condone his irrational behaviour. he seems to think he's better than man u and he isn't. If he's going to continue getting banned then what's the point of paying him. Why should we pay a person who's services we can't use. Fine him? The club will still be wasting money! Abandon his contract NOW!
I think the fact Alex retracted his earlier defense of him is a sure sign the suits have decided to clamp down a bit. That comment may have been ordered by the board. He is a great player which makes it even worse he can't control himself. It is Roy against the world. I hate these idiots that excuse that type of behavior by saying things like "I don't care what people think" or "I am just being honest." In other words, I am always right. He then has the audacity to push a teammate (Neville I think?) for a late tackle. Neville told him to "*************** off" I believe, or that is what it looked like. I think Alex wanted his captain to have the summer off--truly I do.
Phil was playing with a yellow card, I think Roy was trying to self-police him before the ref had a chance to approach him with a possible 2nd yellow. And like I've read elsewhere, who hasn't wanted to give Phil Neville a shove?
so why doesn't keane get someone to poilce him during every game then? he needs it! as for pushing phil around? he was playing very badly i suppose a quick shove when he wasn't looking might have been good
LMAO! Check out this interview with his former coach, Brian Clough of N'ham Forest. His suggestion? Slap the $#!t outta Keane!! http://www.wldcup.com/news/2002Sep/20020908_14987_world_soccer.html
Just wondering... How many people here have actually read Roy Keane's book as opposed to read excerpts, sentences or paragraphs? It's worth a read - if only to put some of these quotes in context, or in some cases, to see what he actually wrote (or more accurately - what Eamonn Dunphy wrote.)