Since Rossi has denounced his affiliation with the USA and chosen Italy as his homeland officially, should he be considered and followed in the YA forum as a Yank Abroad?
Read the established definition of Yank Abroad. He was born in America. That, by our definition, makes him a YA. He's not the only player on the YA list to play for another national team.
there's a reason for that. it's because THIS TOPIC HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED TO DEATH. and it's in the wrong forum -- you said so yourself in your original post.
This is a football forum not a US Imigration and Naturalization forum, in the world of football he is officially an Italian Footballer. Anyone following him and claiming he is a yank is a straight up insecure fan desperate to claim him as an american to his euro buddies.
Couldn't say it better myself, good riddance Benedict Arnold having fun playing B friendlies, and that will only occur when your return to "the motherland".
My only propblem with this line of argument is that this "definition" was made up by a couple people who were interested in following americans overseas who had the power to espouse that defintion by the website. It was never a widely accepted definition or one that was "negotiated" or anything of the sort. So to point to this established definition as proof of anything doesn't ring true with me. So they may classify him as a Yank Abroad inthat forum and on that website, but i think its quite telling that YA Match day threads about players like Bradley, Adu, Dempsey, Szetela and even Cherundolo all get more hits and traffic that a Rossi match thread. It seems to me most americans following this game and their fellow countrymen abroad reject Rossi mostly, maybe becuase they don't view him as a true Yank in football......which would sort of lend more credit to the true definition of the term Yanks Abroad than what 3 guys in a basement came up with and forced on us.
Exactly. If people don't like his threads in YA don't open them and respond in them. They'll disappear. This has pretty much happened already, as you mention. If a couple people want to talk about him there then what's the harm? What makes people so angry about it? Let it go (not you onion, I'm talking in general) There's a whole host of players that YA keeps track of that no longer represent the US, its just that Rossi has the highest profile. Brede Hangeland, Fulham's Norwegian centerback, is also considered a YA because he was born in Houston (hence a US citizen). There's a long list of guys like Marc Heider, Bruce Djite, Jon Burklo, Cullen Feeney, Fabian Johnson, Eddie Gustafsson, Boaz Myhill, Jake Edwards, and many many others. Those YA posters put a lot of work and effort into tracking them so if they want to then more power to them. If you don't want to read it then don't read it.
doesn't play 4 the colors. doesn't want 2 play 4 the colors. not a YA. Rossi has done his darndest to distance himself from the US. Let it be.
while technically he is a yank abroad, in practice he is not. he's played for italy's youth system, and is no longer eligible to play for the us senior team. if you consider rossi a yank abroad, i guess you'd have to consider adu a guyanese abroad. i consider adu an american, and rossi not so much, so my answer is no.
No. Let's make it simple. He maybe born in the U.S. but his alligiance is with Italy and the Italian calcio. He does not want to play for the USMNT!
When did Rossi ever announce his affiliation with US soccer. He never did. From day one of his career he's demonstrated his desire to play for Italy. He didn't announce his homeland as officially being Italy. He's still an Italian-US dual citizen. He's always discussed his love for the US and the opportunities the US has given him. I've never ever read one negative comment he's made about US soccer and the US. This whole US soccer-Rossi animosity has always been one sided, with US fans trying to crucify him. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Meanwhile he's been nothing but class. And since he's a US citizen, then they can talk about him in Yanks Abroad if they wish. I don't have to read it.
I agree, if anything its Rossi's fathers fault for brainwashing his son on how great his homeland and their passion for football is. Come on lets be real; if i had a childhood friend coming up and getting capped and about to be a star on the USMNT; i would die to play with my bestfriend(Rossi,Szetela). When you grow up with a father who is an Italian immigrant and as passionate about Italian football as i am towards the USMNT; this was bound to happen.
People who said no are catching too much emotions. He's a YA, plain and simple. Even if he's not playing the NT he's still helping to open doors for other future YA's.
But see the point is, that its not plain and simple. Because there is a very substantial segment of the USA fan base that doesn't not agree and support what a couple guys on an internet message board forum tell us the term YA means. In fact its a major f*cking difference of opinion. There is a very large (possibly even a majority) percentage of fans that feel YA should be the home and temple of American Footballers, not simply any footballer that just happenes to have any crazy connection to this country, and esspecially one like in the previous line that flattly rejects representing the country as a player. The truth is there are two clearly marked sides to this debate. Simply saying he is a YA because some people that started a website to track them created a definition and forced it on us here doesn't make it so. Personally i find the Mods in that forum who card and discipline for not agreeing with the definition to be extemely pompus and irrational. Its not like there is just a couple people that feel this way, there is a substantial segment that does and they have very well founded and reasonable reasons for supporting a different definition.
I voted a biiiiig NO! If you hear the guy speak in an interview, he doesn't sound remotely American, or British even. He has a thick Euro-accent and although he speaks excellent English, sounds very ESL. I respect the guy as an up and coming prodigy but I just can't get into him like some others do here on the yanks abroad forum. He plays in Spain, plays for Italy, and has never played for a US national team nor club I don't see him being anymore American than the likes of Lothar Matteus, Donadoni, David Beckham, valderama, etc... players who passed through here some time or another during their careers. OK, so he spent some of his childhood here.. so what, doesn't make him a yank abroad in my opinion. Once again, that's just my opinion - obviously others see it differently.
Not getting into the Rossi argument, but this is the worst reasoining ever - I mean listen to Michael Bradley's interview from last week or any time that Friedel talks. Are they not YA's becasue they don't sound "American"?