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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by el-capitano, Jan 31, 2011.
This from ESPN:
Are you farggin' kidding me?
that is so low.
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Ozil's price was low because his contract had less than a year to go. Since he was leaving one way or another, they didn't want to lose him for nothing.
And Real already had more than 25 senior players so they would have had to pay VDV to sit in the stands.
That quote is really underthought... I mean really. Yeah, it's been a rough couple years, but the club speaks for itself. 18 and 5 Nando. Have just a little respect. Jesus.
I've just awakened from a dream. In my dream, Liverpool signs Momo Sissoko. Liverpool and Chelsea are playing at Stamford Bridge, and Sissoko makes a clean tackle on the Chelsea forward, Fernando Torres, who hyperextends his right knee 12 degrees, tearing cruciate ligaments and shattering his patella.
Sissoko then threads a pass past a stunned Michael Essien to Luis Suarez who turns on John Terry and beats Petr Cech into the top left corner.
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Ozil was in the last year of his contract which is why Werder had to sell. The fee was actually higher than expected when you consider all Real bought was 12 mos. of service.
As for VdV, due to his style of play he will always be a polarizing figure. He's still very injury prone yet when he does play you really need to structure your formation around him. He'll never play on a top team because frankly he's just not good enough (and VERY few are) to warrant that level of consideration. He's absolutley ineffective in a traditional 4-4-2 formation as he can't play in midfield and prefers to drop deep rather than lead the line.
Time to look forward now....let's not get hung up on a greedy baby like Torres.
All 49 of Suarez's goals from last season. I think this guy can play in any league.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsn_OYWttA&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Luis Suárez 2009/2010 - 49 GOALS - Liverpool FC[/ame]
What a brain melter of a day.
In the end we have traded the best striker in the world ( conditions being perfect mind you) for two very good ones that are 3-5 years younger.
Given that our problem was/is primarily a lack of depth, and also that brylcream forced our hand, I suppose we shall have to live with it.
Forgetting money, Carrolls a beast. Hes almost impossible to handle becouse of his size and determination. He and Suarez may well make an outstanding pairing. Its lucky for us that Mike Ashley is, well, Mike Ashley. Little bit of over the odds and he bit our hands off. Ha.
It takes real balls to look at sums like 35 million pounds and know that your getting pooched, and say ya, ok, that keeps the team in the game, lets do it. They ignored the sums and treated it as a trade. FSG +5.
If we were going into a cl final against barca tommorow with world classers 3 deep at every spot, then we would need zitface becouse he's a difference maker in a game like that.
In reality, we are hoping to win 3 on the trot for the first time in a million years against Stoke, hoping to drag ourselves up to at least 6th place by the end of the year to get back into tier II in sept, and hoping to get a nice tier II run together becouse we have a decent draw at this point. As i think about it, Suarez and Carroll are likely to prove far more usefull in those endevours than Barbie was ever going to.
I also like that we have them both on 5 years after this season is over. Thats awesome.
Also: 50 million pounds for a 7 goal scorer, totally reliant on pace, whose only 27 but his hammys cant play twice a week, who hasnt shown anything but flashes for 18 months. Now THAT is an epic swindle. Roman must have blinked for a millisecond and missed all those Manu Owen scoring hilights.
and finally....please god: let russia finish 5th. please please please. I will laugh till i cry. That team is not that good at this point. Dogbreath is gonna love playing second fiddle. Anelka cant wait to warm the bench. Rank Blowhard is no Gerrard. And luckily for all of them, not an ego in the bunch.
In Kenney we trust. YNWA.
Way too early for this Bob. He might go there and light the bridge on fire or he might go there and pull a sheva. Give him 'till next year and then let it rip up.
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This is an excellent point. Our owners come from American sports where there are no transfer fees, and the big clubs distinguish themselves by offering players huge wages. The European media puts all the emphasis on the transfer fee and pays little attention to the wages. FSG have looked at the big picture and decided that 35 million for Andy Carroll is good business even if the transfer fee is way over the top. If he is on reasonable wages, it is good value over the length of the contract. Why should we care so much about the transfer fee anyway? This is the player Kenny wanted, and we got him. It is not going to prevent us from making future transfers. FSG have, if nothing else, shown their intent to spend money to improve this squad.
It is also clear that Kenny/Commoli identified Carroll as a man they had to have. He is a unique player, and if Kenny believes this is the type of player we need leading the line, it was worth the money. Sure there are plenty of other players we could have had for 35 million, but how many players out there have the same characteristics as Carroll? He is tall, amazing in the air, great pace, good skill, and excellent finisher. The uniqueness of this player helps justify the transfer fee.
For the first time in ages we will have 2 dangerous strikers leading our attack. Opposition defenses will always have something to worry about.
It will be interesting to see Kenny's plan for fitting Gerrard into a 2 striker system. I look forward to seeing a more fluid attack with goal threats all over the place. We are a stronger overall team at the end of today than we were at the start of the day.
I am going to miss Torres. I loved the man. He was truly special. However, he did have his faults, with injuries at the top of the list. Players that rise to prominence as teenagers usually do not excel into their 30's. Take Fowler and Owen as examples. Hopefully Torres has just as much success as those 2 in his post Liverpool career. I have no doubt that he will forever regret his decision.
Blanky man, let me point out i said earlier that given the right conditions hes the best in the world. My point is 50 million quid, given those other factors primarily the fact that his game is based almost totally on speed...ok, epic swindle not yet.
Huuuuuge risk....oh yeah. Massive.
If he wasnt prone to breaking down he'd be a lock for 35 a year, autopilot. But he is prone to breaking down. The sims with Senor Owenus are striking. no pun intended.
He could light it up for 5 years. but for 50 million, he better.
even momentarily removing my newfound personal rancour towards the total douche bag, once an iffy hammy, always an iffy hammy.
I hope we go on a tear and finish 4th and Chel$ski fall to 5th. Please oh please let it happen.
Good find. It's amazing how many of those goals come as a result of his pinpoint accuracy. Being able to place the ball anywhere on target isn't something that's going to change just because he comes to a better league. He'll just have to adapt to better defenders. I mean even Premier League goalkeepers wouldn't save most of those absolute snipes.
Sure it will be harder to score in the Premier League, but this team is being built for him to succeed. Andy Carroll is a dream striker partner for someone like Suarez. Carroll can certainly occupy defenders and win everything in the air. He will also have Steven Gerrard charging forward from midfield and looking to play him in.
Suarez highlights show the following:
- Deadly right foot. Deadly left foot.
- Nice first touch to get ball into critical position for second touch.
- Absolutely lethal final touch with almost peerless placement of shots. With his weaker left foot he manages to curl his shots, and lift them into the roof of the net.
- Ability to pass and create.
I love this kid already. I wonder how difficult it would be to remove the Torres labels from my kits and replace them with Suarez.
If he settles, he could be immense.
I'm not sure if he's a world class player in the EPL, but he's at least a very good one.
A small confession.
I drool. Not a lot. Probably a normal amount for someone born during WWII.
When I found out that LFC had signed Andy Carroll, I went into gush mode.
I think the Suarez/Carroll partnership is likely to be akin to a duo that played for an unmentionable team in the late 90s and early 00s, but for obviously different reasons.
If Carroll kept up the pace all season, what's his value then?
You don't think City, Chelsea, or United are in for him? (Spurs too, but they're a joke)
Chelsea need to replace Drogba sooner or later.
So Spurs went in for Adam? My god, Redknapp is such a troll.
LOL at Spurs getting turned down by seeming every single player in Spain.
were all these bids from spurs even real? i mean how do you go around bidding 30-35 mil on players and end up with nobody?
Michael Bradley did end up going to Villa on loan. He's replacing Ireland so he'll probably get some good playing time. I'm glad. I want to see what he can do against strong competition, and Villa is a good place for him (Friedel and Guzan can help him acclimate). He's only 23 and he's done well in Bundesliga, but this is a big challenge for him. Hopefully he'll rise to the occasion. I think he will.
Because those players are scared of AC Milan and then having to play in the Europa League next year. Even though I believe they'll beat Milan and finish 4th, ahead of London's 3rd biggest club
Spurs is either overreaching and delusional or just wanted to make themselves look like a big deal with money to spend knowing that these transfers wouldnt happen. Or Rednapp just wanted attention. Honestly, I think its all three.
That second paragraph cracked me up. Would never happen.
Most likely situation would be a never-ending "Momo loses the ball, Momo wins the ball, Momo misplaces a 1 yard pass, Momo makes a great tackle..." etc etc