As I'm sure all of you are aware, we learned in 2000 that Florida's voting process isn't as smooth as we might like, being in the land of the free and the home of the brave and all that. Well, things appear not to have improved much. It's so bad even Jeb was concerned...he ordered many polling places to stay open 2 extra hours. The new'n'improved voting machines weren't put through a dry run in at least two counties, and the inevitable hilarity ensued. (And by "hilarity" I mean, the systematic denial of our most basic right.) And, purely as a coincidence, I'm sure, the problems in black precincts were more common and more severe than in white areas. So I ask you...should Florida just call off this whole new-fangeld democracy experiment, and install a strong man? The type of man who physically intimidates you with his size. A man who knows enough about how power operates in Washington to negotiate with Pres. Bush and ward off the otherwise inevitable deployment of US troops to ensure a fair election. A man who is not afraid to send in the troops to assert public order. Ladies and Gentleman, introducing Florida's new Maximum Leader, Janet Reno. Seriously, what the hell is wrong down there? You'd think after 2K, if there would be one state that would be so aware of potential problems that it would run a smooth election, it would be Florida. Anyone from there, to me, that old saying the buck stops here would seem to doom Jeb. I mean, how could any right thinking person vote for him? I say this while fully admitting I don't know the details or anything, but, my God, he's the Governor!!! Surely he has some responsibility for this fiasco.
Re: Re: Is Florida ready for democracy? You sure you want that job? It's not even a funny punchline anymore - just sad.
Flordia is God's waiting room. If they can't vote straight, so you actually expect them to drive straight?
Re: Re: Re: Is Florida ready for democracy? If I had the powers required to clean things up (let's just say some laws wouldn't apply to me) it would be fun and educational.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Florida ready for democracy? Ouch. Actually, the Nazis were in power, so they just re-wrote the laws to fit their needs. DISCLAIMER: I would not in any way resort to genocide to fix Florida's voting problems. That would be, to put it extremly mildly, excessive.
There is nothing wrong with Florida's voting machines. Nothing happens that the Democrat Party doesn't want to happen. They knew that Janet Reno had to be defeated for them to have any chance this fall...and they saw to it that she was defeated. Funny how she lost in her two supposed strongest counties. You'd think the Dem party machinery wouldn't have the gall to cheat again but these guys have no shame.
So the Democrat County election commissions in two heavily Democratic Counties get awarded $ 36 million dollars of everybody else's money to design, install and implement an election system. These Democrats then hire workers, buy machines, set up polling places and supervise a Democratic primary. And when it is a complete disaster? IT'S JEB BUSH'S FAULT. Thank you very much, Dave. You always manage to get right to the heart of the issue. Christ.
Exactly which counties would those be, genius? She won Miami-Dade by a 3-to-1 count and won Broward comfortably. You might try the facts once in while, Ian.
Maybe I wasn't clear...my point was meant to be about how people there would perceive the problem. So long as any blame can be laid at Bush's desk, my expectation is that he'll get blamed for much more than his share. It's easier to find one person to point the finger at than the multitudes who contribute their little bit of incompetence. I don't think the problems are going to help him with swing voters, do you? That's what I was getting at. Trying to anyway.
They can't figure out how to vote. They can't figure out how to count. It's God's waiting room anyway. Let's give Florida to Cuba (this way the whole voting, counting thing won't matter anymore anyway)
Oh come on dave, at least stand up for what you said. Please allow me to remind you of your closing statement: Sorry dave, but here you are not decrying the fact that Jeb might be unfairly blames, but rather you're very much trying to get at least a little of the goo to stick to him. And the more the better. Add to that your thinly veiled attempt to inject a charge of racism into the topic, (although the absurdity of calling black democrat poll workers in black democratic precincts who didn't show up, showed up late, left early and/or ignored an emergency order from the Governor to stay open two extra hours RACISTS borders on the bizarre) and, frankly, this is a long ways from your best work.
It's starting to look like their explosive -snifing dogs are also traied by their elections department.
Are they still using the ultra-inefficient punch out ballots with the threat of "hanging chad?" If those dolts haven't switched to scantron yet, I move that Florida become America's new punching bag, thereby freeing the South of its reputation for most inifficient spot in the United States. Because as we all know, Florida isn't in the South.
Well lets see If your state is a cluster **********, who usually gets the balme? My question is why is Jeb still in the Govs Mansion? I thought if you lived in public housing in Florida and someone in your family was convicted of a drug crime, you were no longer eligible to stay in public housing. Notice how when Todd Bridges or Robert Downey Jr gets caught with crack cocaine, they call it 'Crack Cocaine" but when a Bush gets caught with crack, it's called " a white rock like substance which later tested positive for cocaine".