Is Beckham an all time top 50 player?

Discussion in 'Beckham Fans Forum' started by football_world, Aug 8, 2009.

  1. football_world

    Jun 13, 2006
    Arguably, Beckham is one of the most accurate crossers in the history of the game, and perhaps the most accurate crosser ever. If you could pick a player to lob the ball to you from 50 yards away, it's a no brainer that Beckham is the player to do it. Even at the top level, when a player lobs a ball down 1/3 of the field and hits his man, you think, "Wow, nice pass. I hope he does it again." With Beckham, you don't hope he does it again - you know he will do it again, and again, and again:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rklueQEWxn8"]YouTube - David Beckham[/ame]

    For this reason, at 34 years of age, he is still in contention for the English national team at the next World Cup. Beckham doesn't have speed, he doesn't have dribbling, and he is 34 years old - why on earth could he be in contention for England's 2010 World Cup team? Obviously, his crossing skills and dead ball abilities are still world class and there is nobody else in England that is close to his abilities in these two areas.

    Of course Beckham is not a top 50 player in the world right now, but in his prime, he was arguably a top 3 player in the world and was runner up to the European Footballer of the Year (Ballon d'Or) in 1999 and he was runner up to the FIFA World Player of the Year award in 1999 and 2001. He was a big factor in Manchester United obtaining the Treble in 1999 and continued to contribute to Manchester United winning the title in 2000, and 2001.

    So, for possibly being the most accurate crosser of all time, do you think Beckham makes the list for top 50 player all time?
     
  2. Wearethecrew1

    Wearethecrew1 Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    Athens/Westerville
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is somewhere between landon Donovan and Dema Kovalenko
     
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  3. woodlands

    woodlands New Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Maybe. But who cares, though. His soccer brand is in the top 2 of all time (the #1 being Pele's).
     
  4. sportie1

    sportie1 Member

    Sep 4, 2008
    a GREAT player is a person who transcends the game on the field and becomes an ambassador, something which pele, bobby charlton and franz beckenbauer have done-- (other icons like gordie howe, wayne gretzky and steve nash in other sports have also done) --players who bring the sport to a level of identity that put the spotlight on just what soccer can do to elevate people from difficult situations and inspire nations to do better-- players who give back to the fans with their hearts, time and wallets

    becks has that potential, but gets caught up with his image production-- he could become a GREAT player if he is able to do this, but i think he is incapable of placing his ego #2 and the sport #1

    if his actions could line up with his words, then he could become a GREAT soccer player and help bring NA soccer to new heights, much like pele did in the 70's with the nasl and the cosmos, and the roots of the usa's soccer development on the world stage
     
  5. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    1) This should probably be in the "Fans" forum.
    2) That music is ********ing terrible.
    3) Yeah, he's one of the best players to ever play in MLS.
     
  6. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No. If you were asking if he's in the top 100 I'd say maybe.
     
  7. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top 50 of all time is tough.

    Depends, if you want to go 50 deep in attacking players and wingers, he makes it.

    However, if you divide it out by position, say 50 players = 2 WC teams + 4, and we'll only to 5 deep at GK, so:

    GK: 5
    D: 16 (LB = 4, CB = 8, RB = 4)
    M: 16 (RM = 4, CM = 8, LM = 4)
    F: 8

    + 5 more players.

    So, are there 4 right wingers better, all time? Heck, I can think of two right now: Christiano Ronaldo and Figo. If we allow 3 more spots for RW, is Becks among them?

    I doubt it. If you expand to 100, I'd say yes.
     
  8. si2008

    si2008 New Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    Club:
    Hereford United FC
    it is hard to say. i think maybe in the top 50 uk players. but world top 50 not really you have to ask yourselves is he say better than say for eg george best franz becanbauer lionel messi johan cruyff diego maradonna pele
     
  9. alky13

    alky13 Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Manchester/NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Lio Messi at the young age of 21 is not in the top 50 of all time. While he is the best player in the world as we speak, he could easily blow a knee and his career would be excellent. But not top 50 EVER.
     
  10. si2008

    si2008 New Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    Club:
    Hereford United FC
    to be honest beckham is just a little bit better than glenn hoddle
     
  11. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whenever someone is considered the "best ever" at something, they have to be considered as one of the top __ players.

    When someone would compile a list they would think of the best penalty stopper, best goal scorer, best crosser, best long range shooter, best passer, best pure defender, best winger, best header of the ball, best enforcer, fastest player with the ball, most exciting player, etc.

    David Beckham is probably the best crosser AND dead ball specialist ever. When someone logically assembles a list of the top 50 players, Beckham would have to be on there.
     
  12. si2008

    si2008 New Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    Club:
    Hereford United FC
    probably not all time 50 i would say probably not even top 12 uk all time
     
  13. football_world

    Jun 13, 2006
    Yup, I agree with this.
     
  14. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    QED, QFT (Quad Erat Demonstratum, quoted for truth)
     
  15. Garby80

    Garby80 New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Copenhagen
    Club:
    FC København
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    While Beckham probably is one of the best crossers ever, i think Ronald Koeman is/were a greater dead ball specialist. In the 91-92 season with FC Barcelona, Koeman made 16 goals - as a defender, most of them from free kicks and o/c some penalties...
     
  16. tambo

    tambo Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Sounds like you got yourself into an Internet fight somewhere, and you're looking for some backup...
     
  17. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    I think Beckham is the best crosser ever without a doubt, in his Man U days his crosses were just on another level to what I've seen from anyone else.

    Also I'd say he was defintely the best overall FK taker when you consider not just the direct threay on goal, but the ones which he whips in for others to score. I'd say the main reason he still plays for England is that our big players in the box score off such a high ratio of his free kicks.

    For directly scoring off free kicks he's still one of the best all time and probably technically the best or equal (as there's a number ofplayers who can match him for technique, not least Juninho P.), but his FK scoring has at times run hot and cold.

    Koeman was about power and was also one of the best FK scorers of all time, though at the same time remembr a lot of his goals were also PKs or came from open play.
     
  18. WALDO

    WALDO Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    BURBANK
    This question should be about where does Beckham rate in the MLS. Right now, I would rank him behind "El Diablo", and "El Pibe". And probably Preki was better too.
     
  19. sportie1

    sportie1 Member

    Sep 4, 2008
    well... i have seen a better crosser of the ball than becks-- and i saw him beyond his prime years in the nasl-- what a left foot!! what a curve around a defender's arse and into the penalty area for heading home terrific goals

    his name-- ALAN HINTON-- now that was a very good player and an even greater man-- fortunate to see him play in vancouver, especially in 1978-- you had to have seen it to believe the way he could cross a ball with an almost 90 * angle curve-- even becks can not do that!
     
  20. Soccerprep

    Soccerprep Member

    Aug 26, 2005
    Lafayette, LA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In his prime I would put Beckham on this list. Figo could just as easily be at LM or CM. I find it difficult to find 2-3 all time RMs better than him.
     
  21. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I only saw the 2nd half of the LA game last night, but Beck's free kicks were pretty poor.
     
  22. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I guess Gooch is a top 50 alltime player because he's the best at throw-ins.
     
  23. football_world

    Jun 13, 2006
    Like Beckham, Gooch was also runner up for Ballon d'Or and FIFA Player of the Year twice :rolleyes:
     
  24. football_world

    Jun 13, 2006
    Fo being possibly the most accurate long ball passer ever, in addition to the following honors:

    - Runner up for Ballon' Dor
    - Runner up for FIFA Player of the Year twice
    - Listed by Pele as one of the best FIFA 100 Players all time
    - Obtained the Treble with Manchester United and helped United win the Premiership 3 years in a row
    - Started for Manchester United and Real Madrid
    - Captain of the England National Team

    Given all the above, and the fact that he is probably the most accurate long ball passer ever, and that he is a world class dead ball specialist, there is more than enough reason to consider Beckham in the top 50 all time.
     
  25. tambo

    tambo Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Hey, I wasn't disputing your premise. I was just joking about the catalyst for your thread. "Is he a top 50 player" is kind of a random topic... sounds like you got into a debate somewhere, and you came here to get help gathering up some ammo.
     

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