Is Beasley really All THAT?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by RevsRule, Feb 19, 2004.

  1. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just curious to see what people think. The question is... Other then speed and a good work rate, what does Beasley really bring to the table? To kick it off, my feelings are that hes very fast, not a great passer, not a great dribbler, we know his crosses are inaccurate and Wed he forved that he's not much of a finisher. So the question is, besides the two good things previously mentioned, is he really that great? It's not like Europe is beating his door down.
     
  2. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    And a bag of chips
     
  3. fusion101

    fusion101 Member

    Jan 11, 2002
    Well he may not have the skill that some of the other offenseive players have, but he seems to be the only one who can break a defense down by himself. Against Holland he drew around 3 or 4 fouls, eventhough he shoulda had more go his way. He was the quickest guy on the field, which enabled him to make some nice runs yesterday. He also did well against Brazil in the GC, it seems like he has some big games vs big opponets.
     
  4. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    Notice how the game picked up when he checked in against Holland. He's all that.
     
  5. MrSparkle

    MrSparkle New Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    Downers Grove, IL
    Just from watching him play with the Fire, I agree that it could be frustrating from time to time seeing him send an inaccurate ball or try to dribble through one too many guys.

    But, man, can he make things happen with that speed.

    All I know is that he's better than most other options. Just give him a couple more years.
     
  6. By-Tor

    By-Tor Member

    Tottenham Hotspur, Chicago Fire
    Nov 30, 2003
    Deerfield, IL
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll say this until it improves - Beasley, practice you're crossing or you'll never make it in Europe (at least a top division). Finishing from farther than the 6 yd. box needs work, too.

    Arjen Robben is not quite ALL THAT but he's much further along than Beasley (not just based on Wed either).
     
  7. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    First of all, his shortcoming:

    #1--touch. The second ball Donovan passes to him, he did a bad touch. That slowed him down to enable two Dutch players to catch up which in turn causes his hurried shot.

    #2--shooting technical. He did shot a full ball in that chance, and he also get under the ball too much in the first chance.

    #3--balance. Beasley is not good at control his balance.

    Then his good side:

    #1--unpredicable. Beasley is likely do some very creative thing even himself didn't expect. This is a great character for an attacking player.

    #2--his reading of game.

    #3--his defense.

    #4--his speed.

    If he can refine his ball handling skill and shooting techinical, he can be a world class terror on the field.
     
  8. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    I really wish he can. For posters who are more knowledgeable than me, can you give me examples of technically poor 21-year old players who ended up improving their techniques so much that they subsequently became world class players?
     
  9. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beasley not all that?

    It seems like everyone loves to rag on Beasley. Anyone who thinks beasley is only about speed is an idiot. That may be his greatest asset, but it is in no way his only one. And his crossing is not nearly as bad as people here say it is, in fact it's not bad at all. It's just not great. I'd say average, and getting better. Did anyone notice how the game sped up as soon as he checked in? That he did better moves to beat defenders than any other player on our team? IMO he had a far greater effect on the game than Donovan did. It seemed like no dutch players gave Landon a second thought, and it didn't matter. When beasley came in, he instantly bacame a focus of the opposition, and drew a few fouls. He also recieved a long pass and dished it to convey for what could have been the game tying goal.
     
  10. jonny

    jonny New Member

    Sep 17, 2002
    Mexico
    Beasley plays big in big games(Brazil , Holland , Uruguay)
    Donovon plays big in small games(too inconsistent)

    Gimme Beasley!
     
  11. usnatfan

    usnatfan New Member

    Aug 25, 2003
    South Florida
    Beasley also brings respect to the table, defenders MUST respect his speed or theyre toast. The kid defends his ass off, and brings creativity to the attack, he also has a knack of getting in the penalty area due to that speed. Speed is not a trivial thing, it's what makes him a solid young player. He gets fouled alot from behind (like he did against Holland in penalty area) because of his speed. He has the ability to change the tempo of a game and make plays in large part because of his speed, i think thats a good thing. Sure he can improve technically, he can better his shooting and crossing, but you cant teach speed, you either have it or don't.
     
  12. usnatfan

    usnatfan New Member

    Aug 25, 2003
    South Florida
    In addition to speed, the kid has heart and toughness. It's a known fact that Damarcus Beasley weighs 68 pounds (only when soaking wet and in full uniform), and stands all of 4'11. This not only makes him small, but quite possibly one of the top 10 toughest people on the planet.
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Huh? Arjen Robbens is NOT ALL THAT? The guy will probably move to ManU soon, one of the top 5 teams in the world...
     
  14. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Beas may never play for a Champion's League team in the big four. But he will be somewhere between world class and above average...
     
  15. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    I agree that DMB will be a useful player for some teams, especially against opponents who are not familiar with his style of play. I just shiver when I read about him becoming world class. I also question how much more he will improve technically. Yes, he will improve, but probably not to the degree that would satisfy the expectation on this board. I hope I am totally wrong (and hence my request for examples of greatly improved players).
     
  16. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Juve got rid of a young Thierry Henry because he could not finnish.
     
  17. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Was Henry technically unsound then?
     
  18. socrne1

    socrne1 Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Feb 12, 2003
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's still only 21, seeing him play with the fire has been fun. Watching him develop over the years he has gotten better and better. He has been a figure on the national team for about the last 2-3 years now, they must see his abilities and potential, he will only get better. I think sometimes his mind does things that his body cant catch up to (falling down with the ball 6yrds out from the mexico goal a friendly or so ago). He is determined to get better and he knows what he needs to improve on. Just wait...
     
  19. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Beas is a lot like a left footed Cobi Jones. Cobi did get noticeably better technically from age 20 to 30, as will Beas. Good enough to be a standout player on a Croatia '98 style team...which it seems like where we're headed come 2010.
     
  20. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    In spite of my skepticism, I sure hope that a 30-year old Beasley has better technical skills than a 30-year old Cobi!!!
     
  21. Nimbus2000

    Nimbus2000 Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Mar 6, 2001
    New England
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well DMB created about as many chances on goal as Ruud, Pierre, and Roy combined while playing for a conservative and negative side which inspired little enthusiasm among a half-filled arena.


    That's not world class but it's okay, especially since DaMarcus only played for 45 minutes versus their combined 135 minutes.
     
  22. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    The best thing about Bease is he tries to shake things up, the worse thing about Bease is he doesn't succeed often enough. Hopefully, that changes.

    Where Lewis is predictable, if more efficient against many teams, at least Bease will actually cut inside once in while.

    But give me JOB over both of them.
     
  23. listentobobmarley

    Jan 5, 2001

    BRILLANT!
     
  24. By-Tor

    By-Tor Member

    Tottenham Hotspur, Chicago Fire
    Nov 30, 2003
    Deerfield, IL
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You read it correctly and I'll repeat: Arjen Robben is not quite ALL THAT (bold for added emphasis from original). The kid is 19! If/when he goes to ManUtd, he will not be an automatic selection in the team at the beginning. You think Giggs and Ronaldo on the left side are just going to step aside? Give him two years and he will be ALL THAT.
     
  25. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He has the talents, but he needed more experienses . He can turn defenders around(he did over and over agaon againmst Holland), but he also dribbled into traffic.
     

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