Irish group designated terrorists

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  1. Letterman

    Letterman New Member

    May 3, 2004
    Upstate NY
    Story
    "Washington, DC, Jul. 13 (UPI) -- The U.S. State Department Tuesday designated an Irish militant group a foreign terrorist organization.
    The order, signed by Secretary of State Colin Powell, places the Continuity Irish Republican Army - also know as the Continuity Army Council and Republican Sinn Fein -- on the U.S. list of foreign terrorist outfits."

    Silvo's going into hiding.

    same old story in Ireland
     
  2. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    SCUMS!!!!!!!!! :mad:

    They helped Afgan Fighters, FARC milita men in Cocaine Columbia, and probably aided some militants/soldiers in Sudan...


    In Israel, we got a phone call 5 hours after 10 Israelis got gunned down by a sniper in Israel from Scotland Yards, claiming that the sniper might have been an Irish!!

    International Terror Scum H.Q = Dubli :mad:
     
  3. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
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    "I think mine would look better in Dubly"
     
  4. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
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    Typo...

    Dubli = Dublin.....
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Kappa, I usually agree with you but you don't know what you're talking about regarding Ireland...I've been to Ireland twice and the IRA (and, more importantly, its militant splinter groups) enjoys virtually no support inside the Republic itself. Most of its supporters are in Catholic areas of Northern Ireland, and in Irish communities in the US (altho since 9/11 a lot of people here who formerly supported violent paramilitary groups have woken up and seen the error of their ways, so their support has dropped off considerably).

    Also, the sectarian violence in Northern Ireland today is no longer really Catholic militants vs. the British military, it is Catholic militants vs. Protestant militants, with the Royal Forces acting more as peacekeepers than anything else.
     
  6. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
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    Than who sends all these terrorist engineers to Afganistan, Israeli, Columbia?
     
  7. "Right Wing Wacko"

    "Right Wing Wacko" New Member

    Apr 29, 2004
    England
    Good post, just to say: for militants read gangsters (drug trade etc).
     
  8. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
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    Jst because you've been to Ireland twice...... e.t.c.

    Look you are right about how the support for Irish Terrorism has waned in the US. (although I think if we said it has disappeared then we would be kidding ourselves....) But I think what you are maybe forgetting is that since September 11th, your press has changed it's views as well. We all know that Irish Terrorism was called Irish nationalism in the Eastern cities, especially Boston. Americans distanced themselves from the real truth that these people are murderers and have helped Al-Qaeda. Now that the truth is out the press have changed it's reporting by saying that since Sept 11th the situation in Ireland has changed. It has always been one group of militants against the other. Both groups have used innocents as a reason for murder and both have fought the British Army. The British Army have for years been trying to act as peace-keepers and have tried to dismantle both sides.
    The difference now is that your press is reporting this in a different way now that it knows Americans now feel bad for supporting the IRA for so long.
    As for inside the republic, im afraid that the IRA has always had a lot of support there, again since 9/11, that support can't be publicised because of Irish-American relations and the realisation that the IRA have had contacts with Al-Qaeda. Silvio, unfortunatly, is not a one-off. He is an arse I agree, but there are many who still think like him.
     
  9. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    IRA splinter groups, but that doesn't mean that Dublin is a world terror capital. The IRA doesn't even operate in the Republic of Ireland, and doesn't enjoy a lot of support there...Belfast, yes, but not Dublin.

    This is mostly true (are you sure about the Prod paras fighting against British forces?). I didn't get the impression that many people in the Republic supported the IRA (and by "IRA" I mean the splinter groups that still carry out acts of violence, not the original IRA which has a cease-fire with the UK government) tho, in fact a lot didn't even want the North to return peacefully as it would be a huge economic drain on the Republic.
     
  10. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
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    Sure... deem that Irish are terrorists and nobody complains, but deem the NAACP leadership are terrorists and folks think you are pscho! What's this world coming to?

    IntheNet
    <<<Back to my potato soup>>>
     
  11. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Are you really comparing sectarian violence with the continuation of black civil rights??
     
  12. JoeBloggs

    JoeBloggs New Member

    Mar 3, 2002
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    Didn't Mcdonalds use to fund the IRA?
     
  13. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I honestly am not trying to stir things up, but . . .

    It is examining the events of 30 January 1972 when 13 civilians were shot dead by British army soldiers during a civil rights march in Derry. A 14th person died later.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3780949.stm

    I think trying to paint the British Army as neutral peacekeepers is probably stretching things a bit.
     
  14. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
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    Yes I am 100% sure that Ulster Unionists have fought with the Army. It's something we hear about day in day out. Unfortunatly many people in the republic do support the splinter groups. The Real IRA support base stretches over the border area in the West of the country.
     
  15. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
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    Honestly? Bull.

    In case you haven't bothered to read the news lately, there is a war against terrorism that America joined after September 11th. The British have been fighting that war since the late 60's. Don't get me wrong, civilian casulties are always unfortunate. But I promise you the IRA has killed many more women and kids. There are always innocents who suffer in war. A pity, but don't try and turn this into an anti-British statement on the IRA. Over here we had 20 years of Americans supporting the IRA because they thought it was a just cause. Well fcuk you, what would you say if we had supported Al-Qaeda with bombs, money and asylum whilst they bombed the Trade Centre?
    Grow up and get a sense of perspective.
     
  16. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Honestly. Blow me.

    I purposely wrote nothing that supports the IRA or American support of any terrorist acts.

    I didn't even disparage the British Army, I simply pointed out that they MAY not have been this neutral arbiter that you initially portrayed them as. (that was a poor grammatical effort).

    Grow up, and know your enemy before you go attacking people.

    I lived in London during the last flare up of violence. I was about two blocks from where that dumb SS blew himself and the top of a bus off because he set his alarm clock timer for "pm" instead of "am". I was there when Canary Wharf was bombed.

    Trust me when I say that I completely condemned that violence, and any actions by the IRA, and would curse them under my breath every time the tube was evacuated because someone left an empty bag on a train.

    I also looked back in utter amazement when those orange nut jobs insisted on marching through Catholic neigborhoods.

    If you want to go back 5 or 6 hundred years, you will find enough atrocities to go around. You might recall that many of those Irish Americans that you accuse of supporting terrorists are here because of British tyrrany.

    I am a big supporter of the British. They have stood by us, even when they probably shouldn't have, but I don't need lectures about what I believe.
     
  17. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
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    a) I wrote that the British Army played a peacekeeping role for years. Meaning last 15 or so. Before that, they were fighting a war and many of the loyalist paramilitries were legal.

    b) Don't bother crying that you are getting attacked. You wrote a post designed to evoke and emotional response. You got one from someone who has lived in London all his life and who got dragged out of school in 1993 to be told that a bomb had gone off at a building where his mother was working. If I had written the same sort of article put put it in reference to Al-Qaeda and the US Army in Sudan for example, I would of got a hundred p.m.'s not to mention a red card. And rightly so. So don't start giving me the rightous act of ' I didn't say anything about supporting the IRA' crap. Great so you lived here for a couple of years, big deal. What do you want a prise for surviving? I would not say anything about 'September 11th is partly America's own fault because they have done this and that'. Why? Because Terrorism is wrong, full stop. No amount of problems justify it. And that is what you are doing.
     
  18. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002

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  19. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
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    A personal fav Ben?

    Obviously you haven't read it............
     

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