Iraqi Soccer Players Like Americans

Actually, just sounds like a nice guy who wishes he could do his soccer.

 

I wish he could, too.

 

i'll tell ya what... when we bother trying to get everybody in iraq clean water, THEN you can start pimping "the bright side"

 

We agree on a lot of things, but you are wrong on this one- We are trying to get water to the people and the terrorists are doing their damndest to stop us from doing it.

There are many things that one can rightfully criticize, but the intentions of those on the ground in Iraq to try and provide basic infrastructure items to the populace is not one of them.

 

Those who spend most waking moments here tend to feel as though they get to make the rules.

 

that's a lot better then the boxer the pentegon was pimping during the olympics that we've refused giving a student visa to 4 times

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/sports/othersports/13boxer.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

 

How about the Executive? Can we criticize them for pulling the plug on the monies needed to...what did Bush call it in 2003? Produce "the best in the region"? Can he be hammered, specifically, for making the decision to support a bill (which moved through committee in its current form predicated upon advisement from BushCorp. officials) that:

?

Bush can be blamed directly for the insurgency, imv, as can Rumsfeld; but even if we leave the truth of the insurgent effect aside, can we, as the SL Tribune - author of the above quote as well - does, submit:

as well?

Who is responsible for the lack of a plan, or a shit plan, the gaps in which such conditions - lack of money, widespread corruption, inadequate training, poor maintenance - manifest themselves? Who is responsible?

I understand your above quote; the folks on the ground may in fact be ready to help. But there's more than insurgents barring the way. Their own CINC and the associated Executive - the war president and his cabal - have led the way in producing, from their end, all the conditions that they possibly CAN to STOP effective reconstruction.

Iraq : Can we just leave? No. But can we lead..?

 

From the article you referenced-

"The decision is a tacit admission of the failure of the US rebuilding effort in the face of a relentless insurgency."

This was my point. I don't think you and I really disagree on this. It seems to me that the rebuilding effort was well intentioned and it is unfair to those who tried to execute it despite all the roadblocks to say that we were not trying.

 

what made you think i was criticizing the troops on the ground?

it still boggles my mind to this day that people automatically assume i am referring to the troops when i am referring to the administration, who have ABSOLUTELY NOT made a genuine effort to give these people basic life necessities

fewer iraqi people have water and electricity now than they did when we arrived, but all dillhole wants to talk about is how they built a school somewhere

meanwhile, gajillions of dollars have magically vanished in the accounting of (ahem) certain contractors paid to provide these basic life services

as for your mention of the "relentless insurgency", that was not hampering their "efforts" from the beginning as it is now

bottom line: the new army bases have friggin' burger kings, but over 50% of iraqis don't have clean water

the priorities of this administration have been laid bare for all to see, and i won't have people continue to act as if i am criticizing anyone but them

 

Americans are generally affable people - if occasionally boorish. It's our policies that people have a problem with.

 

There were 3-0 in prlimary play and lost the next game so they are out not that you guys give a crap.

 

Well, the fact that you called the insurgency "the terrorists" indicates to me that you see this purely in terms of good guys (us) and bad guys (anyone fighting us). That's why people are confused by your post.