Iran: the collapse

What Indian official say that?

Anyway, what does it matter that it was far away from the center of the conflict?

 

There is literally no one in Iran that wants the son of the deposed Shah to rule. This is not a possibility, and should not be a possibility.

 

You don't buy that Israel's strategy is "make sure the neighbors are weak and are never strong enough to have the capacity to be a threat"?

 

See the post by one of the posters, who put this crime in the thread.

USA engagement rules itself.

 

So I was right. No serious war in living memory (unless you’re in your 80’s, which again by your posting style I will impertinently make the assumption that you are not). Which is why unconditionally surrendering is such an obvious solution for you.

(I am a British national living in England btw, although not “ethnically” English).

 

Not posted as a fact.

 

The Indian official in superdave's post didn't claim the Iranian ship was in Indian waters. Read the post again.

And none of us are privy to what the ROE were for this US submarine.

 

Brother, what goalpost shifting? The “living memory” is in my original post.

I am not making any predictions about if or how Iran prevails. I am just saying that it is naive in the extreme to think that the Iranians would unconditionally surrender at this stage. Pretty much every single one of them knows how Imam Hussain fought to the death under extreme odds against the Umayyads, they venerate his sacrifice regularly and they won’t go into captivity easily.

 

Actually experts, I've no links, are telling that this applies to Israel, but it's more fuzzy when it's about the USA.
It's becoming bewildering.

 

That's a pretty rational strategy in a place like the Middle East. Though, Israel has been able to be at least cordial with a number of its neighbors. But, that only happened after those neighbors realized that a military victory against Israel wasn't possible.

The irony is that, strategically speaking, Israel and Iran should be natural allies.

 

And history will remember who did this. Refusing to acknowledge who's actually pulling the trigger and killing kids by deferring that to the Iranian government is next level lack of empathy by those in charge of this.

Sociopaths are ordering this using clips from grand theft auto no less to make a spectacle of it.

 

Trump wages war against Iran, but ammunition is dwindling: now he is begging Europe and Ukraine.

etc.
https://ukranews.com/en/news/113818...-due-to-operation-in-iran-the-washington-post

From certain posters I got the idea it was going so wonderfull and smooth, but from media news you get another pov.

 

I am not trolling this thread.

I am asking a particular person questions not you. If you want to defend every vatnik here do that but don't get upset when a year from now I will you and Tehran Bob as spewing the same BS

Speaking of that is the point of Gulf Cooperation Council
Iran is bombing them and all they do is defend themselves. They will run out of interceptors

Iran is 30 days away from Tel Aviv or something?

Iran has spent the last lets say 35 years of arming themselves and USA/Israel undid all that.

Great success what can I say.

PS. This I am asking you

 

The only example I can think of where a nation surrendered unconditionally without actually being invaded was Japan. Hopefully, we don't throw a couple mini suns at Iran.

 

But hey, Iran should surrender. Lots of people are taking the footage of Tehran being carpet bombed as validating they are days from losing.

Israel is imposing a censorship of videos coming out of Israel. Those that do makes it online shows the same pattern as last time. They are also being hit very hard, same for the US bases.

Too early for calling this a wrap. You just can't regime change Iran without boots on the ground, which would be crazy.