Iran: the collapse

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  1. The great Adamo Inch Allah
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  2. Do you mean Narnia?
     
  3. Response from the capital of Europe:
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  4. spejic

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    The only people I call Zionists are these:

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    I didn't know how hated the Matrix rave scene was until I went looking for a representative image. I rather liked it myself.
     
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  5. This "debate" about zionism is so myopic, that it wouldnot pass the intellectual test of relevance of those who really know what they're talking about, like in this video clip:
    https://www.hadar.org/torah-tefillah/resources/meaning-zionism-and-return-land#videos
     
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  6. spejic

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  7. Knave

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    I did not watch the entirety of this, but I saw enough to understand his point. His point is not especially relevant here. Common usage of the term has little to no relation to what he's talking about. Plus, I keep thinking about that old joke, which I'll restate here in altered form: ask two Jews about Zionism and get three opinions.
     
  8. Robert Borden

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    Diary of a CEO with Robert Pape on the Iran War
     
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    That doesnot look like big rocket hit.
     
  10. People are claiming Israel now uses lasers instead of expensive interceptor ammo.
    Dunno if it's true, but if so...have they just been able to install it?
     
  11. The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com › world › 2026 › mar › 14 › us-kharg-island-oil-export-hub

    Trump says US may strike Iran's Kharg Island oil export hub 'just for fun'
    2 dagen geledenDonald Trump said on Saturday that the United States may carry out more strikes on Iran's vital Kharg Island oil export hub "just for fun", rejecting the prospect of a swift peace deal with ...


    I think it's time for the military to put this bunch of mad dogs down, for the safety of the USA itself.
    China is depending on the oil from that island and destroying it could be considered a direct attack on China, given the consequences.
    Trump might as well give orders to blow up tankers heading to China, it has the same effect.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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  13. spejic

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    It's supposedly active, but it really isn't capable of downing a ballistic missile. It's 100kW and needs to be aimed at the target for multiple seconds, depending on what the target is made of, and ballistic missiles just come in too fast. It's more for short range artillery, both shells and rockets, or drones, so more the things Hezbollah launch. It's affected by atmospheric conditions, so smoke and dust reduce its capability greatly. Another problem is that the system is fixed, so if Iran knows their locations they can program the Shahed drones to go around and avoid them.

    Saudi Arabia found their Chinese lasers very disappointing, but the geographic location and prevailing winds probably means Israel has way less of a dust problem than in the Gulf area.
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

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    Interesting whether China, once they change their collective dacks after pissing them from laughing so hard, simply support Iran for a low level war and mire Trump in Iran

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  15. spejic

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    The military is in a bind. There is a very good chance this is all a bluff, and either Iran can't do anything or can't do anything that we can't immediately shoot down plus get whatever launched it blown up right after. But there's also a chance at a US destroyer getting hit, and that would be a propaganda coup for Iran that the US simply can't afford to give them. The military has to play it safe. Trump can't.
     
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  16. Robert Borden

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  17. superdave

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    So,China is doing to us what we kinda sorta are doing to Russia in Ukraine.

    If I’m allowed to hope…the difference here for Trump is, America’s elites are hopelessly corrupt and decadent. Just completely ********ing useless. They all want in on the booty.

    Trump can’t intimidate or bulldoze or gaslight foreign elites like he can domestic ones.

    Thomas Friedman has a really bad sad, because of how bad things are now. I wonder if he will come to the obvious conclusion, that The System that elevated Friedman to a Knower of Things was not at all some seamless pure meritocracy. The System is rotten and useless.
     
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  18. Jeremy Goodwin

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    I can't remember what we did to Afghanistan. Remind me.
     
  19. ElNaranja

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    Context.

    Zionist: those that believe in an ethnonationalist state for Jews and will support Israel's efforts to create a greater Israel at any cost. The subjugation, or genocide, of those in the way is perfectly fine and Israel morally can't be held accountable for immoral acts for a variety of reasons (some would be religious, others shared guilt for WWII, or what have you).
     
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  20. American Brummie

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    I would cite a particular post, but the last eight or so are all about how the world is abandoning the US and Israel to fix the problem it ha created.

    This doesn't "go back to normal" even if in January 2029 Democrats hold a filibuster proof Senate, 260 House Seats, and the presidency.

    Every day that this continues makes the US more irrelevant.
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    I think people have not processed how much worse this is that Bush/Iraq 2003

    For instance, I listened to Bill Kristol on the Iraq runup, and even though Bush lied about the case for war, the admin did at least believe Iraq had WMD and fully expected to find them. It just wasn't their real priority or motivation. They persuaded allies and got Congressional approval, and undertook vast preparation.

    Trump did none of that
     
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  22. Deadtigers

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    Salams, brother. No seriously, i meant the evangelicals hate the Jews but want Israel to get funding so the final days come. The antisemitic GOP guys hate the jews amd Israel and want no aid to them. The latter will soon outnumber the former and have more clout within the party
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    The bolded part was the purpose of Zionism 100 years ago and that was achieved. However, what we have now from Bibi & crew is ultra Zionism where genociding & invading neighbors is somehow acceptable although it's condemned by the world and has made Israel and Jews less safe. And the US had and is doing it in the ME so I'm not saying that we're any better. Basically ultra nationalists are the scourge of too many countries nowadays.
     
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  24. Belgian guy

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    NATO already no longer exists, you dumb ********. So this threat is meaningless. Unless you can still find more than a dozen people in all of Europe that believe Trump's United States would come to the aid of say the Baltics in the case of a Russian invasion.
     
  25. Belgian guy

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