Iran: the collapse

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  1. celito

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    A quick search shows that they have been replaced with more modern minesweepers.
     
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  2. mebeSajid

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    Man Windows 3.1 is ancient.
     
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  3. Umar

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    Before Trump started negotiating, the Chinese thought they knew the weak points.

    After Trump started negotiating, the Chinese knew they knew the weak points.
     
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  4. Umar

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    Three commercial ships are now on fire in the strait of Hormuz.

    Mortgage lenders here are pulling products and increasing rates in response to the war.

    Thanks to the israeli-American forces for the wonderful job done so far.
     
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  5. Smurfquake

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    But none of the more modern minesweepers are stationed in the Persian Gulf. Where they might be useful at this time. At the beginning of Trump's second term, there were four American minesweepers stationed in the Persian Gulf. They were decommissioned, by the Trump administration, and then Trump initiated hostilities with Iran within six months of those minesweepers being decommissioned. It's a stunning lack of planning. I mean, my expectations were low, but holy shit.
     
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  6. Robert Borden

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    Spain recalls its ambassador from Israel due to opposition to the war in Iran and Gaza Genocide. I can but applaud them and wish our government had the backbone to do the same (they don't)
     
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  7. Umar

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    If they expel the American ambassador too, they might get free passage through the strait of Hormuz! Bargain if you ask me.
     
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  8. Robert Borden

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    Looks like China remains completely unaffected by this war - Iran was able to ship 11M barrel of oil to Beijing


    In the meantime, Iran announced the end of reciprocal strikes and they will keep hitting targets. There's also reports that they will hit facilities associated with major US technology companies. They specifically note that Amazon, Microsoft, Nvidia, IBM, Oracle and Palantir are all potential targets across Israel, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi.
     
  9. celito

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    Meh ... we don't need to negotiate to know the China's weak points are oil and food imports. If the Chinese didn't know our weak points before negotiations, then they have shit intelligence.
     
  10. Robert Borden

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    They would be smart to take this opportunity. I'm not too familiar with trade policies within the Euro zone. I wouldn't put it past other European nations to let Spain receive the oil and buy it from Spain while they keep supporting the war against Iran.
     
  11. celito

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    I am not sure if they are already there, but this is from Sept 2025.

    https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/N...-class-mine-countermeasures-ships-in-bahrain/

    Four littoral combat ships (LCS) are slated to deploy to Bahrain to replace the decommissioned MCM ships that have operated forward in 5th Fleet area of operations for decades.
     
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  12. Dr. Wankler

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    Step Three: PROFITS
     
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  13. Robert Borden

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    Weak point? Depends from what angle you're looking at it. Their record numbers on the trade side were achieve with a significant drop in trade with the US and sharp increase with the rest of the world such as Africa and Latin America - all outside the USD.

    Time have change and Washington needs to adapt. Going into those meetings with the outdated belief that the US is "indispensable" would be a grave mistake
     
  14. Robert Borden

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    None for the bottom 90-95% - just the top benefits while kids of the bottom dies for them
     
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  15. mebeSajid

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    No they wouldn't. Expelling the US ambassador would be incredibly stupid, especially when the current administration is as petty and vindictive as it is.
     
  16. Robert Borden

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    IRGC issue a warning to ships trying to cross the strait without authorization. They provide examples of 2 ships arguing "promises of safe passage"


    Iran starting to make "deal" - Bangladesh ships will get free passage upon getting authorization. When I pointed out that this is how they will start doing business (collecting duties for using the strait), someone said it was "fantasy" (Quake I think). There you go, Global South nations aren't going to destroy their economies over US-Israeli illegal unilateral actions. Expect more to make deals with Iran. This is a repeat of what happened with Russia when the rest of the world refused to sanction them


    This is cause for worries. From my point above, if Iran is able to control the strait this will lead to more nations seeking to deal with them once their strategic reserves reach critical levels
     
  17. Smurfquake

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    Ok, that press release does say that one of the LCS was stationed in Bahrain since last May. I guess I feel a little better about the Navy's planning.
     
  18. Robert Borden

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    This war is affecting Sudan... very interesting development there since the UAE support is being blocked due to the Strait being controlled by Iran
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    i am waiting to hear what the Chinese high school teacher has to say
     
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  20. Robert Borden

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    Oh I misread - I thought you meant if the others expelled the Israeli ambassador not American. I agree - zero chance of this happening
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    Dude is on the Hermann Goering career path only without being a WWI fighter ace

    IMG_2897.jpeg
     
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  22. Umar

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    I don’t think the food and iPads are anything out of the ordinary. People understand that a government department will need to spend millions on food.

    The piano, on the other hand, especially for a department bragging about how it is re-focusing on warfighting…
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    why would the pentagon need to spend 7m on lobster tail in one month?
     
  24. rslfanboy

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    We are at war with the Lobsters.
     
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  25. Val

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    As Casc, I think, already mentioned, a lot of sh*t spending comes at the end of the fiscal year when government agencies are faced with a use-it or lose-it conundrum. If you have excess money at the end of the year, it somehow means that you didn't need that much to begin with, and the fear is that you'll be docked in subsequent years. (Would be an interesting study to see if this is true.)

    And that's always a case when numbers like this get released. Of course, that would only excuse the purchases in September. The grift is a 12-month burden.
     

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