Iran: the collapse

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Way to go America..... So much winning! Can I get the updated " I did this" sticker for the pumps?

    Nate Silver: “According to the AAA, average retail gas prices in the U.S. are now $3.45 per gallon, up about 50 cents from a week ago. However, the problems are likely to worsen significantly as supply chains are disrupted. Traders at Polymarket anticipate that the most likely range for gas prices to land by the end of March is between $4.50 and $5.00. And although there’s a wide range of uncertainty, there’s a 41 percent chance they exceed $5.00 by the end of the month.”

    “Americans are used to gas price fluctuations, but it’s not all that common for prices to go quite this vertical in the span of a month.”
     
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  2. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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    I mean, even if it was bombed by the U.S., do you think this administration would ever admit to as much?
     
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  3. What will it do to the price of eggs?
     
  4. Is it true that Iran/USA are keeping the tankers heading for China un interferred with?
    If so, is it a deliberate act to keep China at bay?
     
  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    Who's the terrorist?
     
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  6. Is ICE coming for them now?
     
  7. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

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    If he was Russian you would have called him based
     
  8. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    No, what I’m saying is that the French government concluded that they had been defeated, and continuing to fight would just lead to more pointless French deaths. Japan found itself in the same position in 1945, and surrendered. Neither Britain nor the USSR found themselves in that situation, so they kept fighting on.
     
  9. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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    Why exactly are all the mouthpieces of this administration spouting murderous intent when talking about this conflict?
     
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    You sure you know your WW2 history? Most historians would disagree with what you wrote
     
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  11. Robert Borden

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    Ahh my favorite supremacist with yet another empty post. Zero F given to civilians who aren’t from "the garden" right.

    This is fine as long as it's black and brown people's kids being double tapped
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  12. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

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    As explained earlier, avoiding more pointless French deaths was not the reason behind the surrendering. This was a political maneuver (signing an armistice with Germany would allow France to maintain a semblance of sovereignty, and thus enable Pétain to overthrow the Republic), based on a flawed military analysis. Any other option (transfering the government to Algiers, placing the French fleet at the service of the British, continuing the war from North Africa) was immediately dismissed by Pétain and his inner circle.
     
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  13. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

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    A reprisal 47 years in the making
     
  14. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    We almost need a thread on why France surrendered in WWII. I'm not sure why this has any bearing on the Iranian conflict?
     
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  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    It's being used in a clumsy and ignorant way to rationalize criticizing Iran for not surrendering.
     
  16. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

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    True. I'm just correcting a historical error. But that has nothing to do with the subject, indeed.
     
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  17. Because they can, encourage to the deafening silence in the wake of the massmurder on Gaza children and women.
    Wonder if these images of bloodthirst at the potential cost of the Iranian population are being seen. It would be a major publicity own goal for the Yanks and Israel if the Iranian regime would make them visible.
    It's like....you complain about us killing 30,000 of you? This is what your saviours have in mind for you.
     
  18. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

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    birthplace of MLS
    I wish they would surrender. They can't possibly win. These guys in charge over here are disgusting and see this as a macho game of bravado and ego. If they were doing anything less than putting on a display of UFC tough guy stuff for their base, they would consider a pause. Let the dust settle, see if any agreement could be reached. I'm sure they've already inflicted massive damage, and Iran won't be able to threaten anyone for a very long time. They won't be able to stop Iran from installing another Ayatollah and continuing on the same path, the US won't be putting boots on the ground -- so reducing their threat capability should be enough. And US/Israel have made their capability clear. But these are wannabe cowboys we're dealing with, trying to look tough. The double down squad.
     
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  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    They were negotiating and were attacked in the middle of them...AGAIN

    Surrender to what? Who in their "bloody" right mind would ever trust the US and Israel to honor the terms? It's not Iran that did this - it was the Epstein coalition.

    Again, surrender to what when the US promised
    • Steal their oil (Worst than Venezuela affair)
    • Balkanize the country (Neo-Syria)
    • Pick the head of state (they've see that before)
    Just naming those - who would ever agree to that? There's no off ramp here because the Epstein duo made sure of it. They want Iran destroyed
     
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  20. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

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    Because Lindsey Graham is one of Trump's circle of child abusers.
     
  21. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
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    They want Iran destroyed and the remnants of Iranian leadership are providing them with the rationale by refusing to capitulate. If the war stopped today, the challenges they face are immense. They were already in big trouble before this aerial bombardment started up (again)...so to me it looks like we have the Iranian egos standing in the way of what's best for the people. It's a battle of egos. For the hardliners, IRGC, they want to fight on (incredibly)...surrender isn't in their DNA, but ultimately, it's the people who are paying the price. We don't really know what surrender might look like for Iran, but could it really be worse than what Iranians are dealing with now?
     
  22. Sounders78

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    Praise the Lord and pass the bombs!
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  24. There is however a mountain slope this bombing freighttrain will hit.
    And that's the point when no surrender is being forced, the stockpile inevitably will reach a red line.
    How many casualties did Iran count in the war with Iraq?
    That;s a sobering number for those who think this bombing campaign is going to deliver, if ever, within the timeframe of what's left to use is going to force Iran to faulter.
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    To me, the two parts in bold contradict each other. If America won’t deploy ground troops, Iran can’t possibly lose.

    Explain to me how Iran can lose if they just refuse to surrender, AND ALSO America doesn’t use ground troops. To me, that scenario is literally impossible.
     

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