Pre-match: International Friendly: USA vs Mexico; September 6th

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  1. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I know. You were pushing that he would be a defender for them and therefore shouldn’t play as a midfielder for the USMNT. What about now? I see he’s not in your starting lineup as you have Trapp starting.
     
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  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Trapp is the 6, yes. McKennie was tried at Schalke at the 6 and found wanting.
     
  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Found wanting by whom? His coach just described him as a special player at both the 6 and the 8.

    Honestly, your dislike of McKennie is baffling to me. I can understand thinking that many people overrate him ... but the idea that Wil Trapp is a better 6 than Weston McKennie is ... I just can't. How?
     
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  4. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's one of 2 CDMs for Schalke, and he's the CDM that grabs the ball from his CB's, much like the lone 6 does in many of the MNT games.

    Meanwhile, Trapp's awful, and has little room to grow in Columbus. It's lunacy that people (sadly, including GGG) are even considering benching a younger, more athletic, and all-around superior player, in favor of an inexperienced, unathletic MLS lifer who isn't even playing especially well for a bad MLS team!
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s not even about Trapp anymore. Moved from him to Delgado to Roldan and now Pomykal. Their all better than a 20 year old starting and bossing games for Schalke and talked about as their future captain. Wes def deserves some criticism for his play at times. Hell so do Adams and Pulisic. Even Messi and Ronaldo deserve it. But to consistently brush him off and specifically him time and time again def leaves you wondering.
     
  6. NietzscheIsDead

    United States
    May 31, 2019
    Yes, honestly it makes you question someone’s motives when they go to such great lengths to diminish someone.

    Wes is the present and future of the USMNT. Wes and Adams are going to be the grit and gears in the heart of the machine. Pulisic is the fancy suspension.
     
  7. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Fire Crown 4 Life (or until they change it again)
    Jan 9, 2004
    Soldier Field Media Deck. First Row.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  8. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. NietzscheIsDead

    United States
    May 31, 2019
  10. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Not really. We now have someone on record. That's different from the base speculation that preceded this.
     
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  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Cross out this guy's international career. Now I wish the caps hadn't been expended on him.

    If 3G is sticking with his 343ish formation then my CMs are--

    Sonora, Parks, McKennie, Morales, Pomykal, Servania, Adams, Lletget

    The five for this match would be McKennie, Morales, Sonora, Parks, Lletget.
     
  12. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As much as I want Pulisic here for these games... Im starting to think we’d be better served for him to stay with Chelsea and get some rest. He’s had a short summer and the EPL is a different beast from any other league. He’s also looking burned out for Chelsea around the 60 minute mark and I have concerns that he might be over worked cause it certainly isn’t lack of fitness. Super torn. Will be interesting to see what 3G does.
     
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  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Plenty of internationals play in the EPL.
     
  14. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Hey let’s be positive.

    Dest and Pomykal. Great players! On top of Adams, Pulisic, McKennie, Sargent and Weah. Plus you can give me 5 more guys I’m forgetting. Gio, Uly, Mendez, Richie.

    We have colts. And I see some kids 15, 16, 17 right now where I stop and think about the way this sport works in cycles and you can feel the shift.

    We are always on a sharper upward trajectory than Mexico. Thats why they are coming so hard for our players.
     
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  16. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on now, players have the right to turn down call ups. Let's not go too crazy.
     
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  17. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One last stab...

    GK: Ethan Horvath, Tyler Miller, Brady Scott

    RB: Sergino Dest, Timmy Chandler

    CB: John Brooks, Matt Miazga, Walker Zimmerman, Ventura Alvarado

    LB: Fabian Johnson, Antonee Robinson

    M6: Alfredo Morales, Christian Cappis

    M8: Weston McKennie (CPT), Joel Sonora (over Nagbe)

    10: Christian Pulisic, Julian Green

    RW: Tyler Boyd, Jordan Morris

    FW: Josh Sargent, Sebastian Soto

    LW: Duane Holmes, Paul Arriola

    ...I’m going YA heavy on this one. Some guys I could leave off but some of these guys need PT. Plus, with the playoff push the MLS players could benefit with staying with their clubs, unless they’re needed. Bedsides, there’ll be all the opportunity in the world at the January camp. Let’s see what the European players can do.

    ...lastly, I came very close to cutting Pulisic for this match. But he’s going to have to get use to playing the double role for club and country. We need him around to become more and more use to his leadership role.

    ...McKennie gets the arm band, IMO.

    ...edit: apparently Nagbe has turned down offer (not good idea on his part). I’d say let’s bring in Joel Sonora and see what he has to offer.
     
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  18. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Nagbe has declined the call up for these matches
     
  19. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn’t take kindly to that if I’m Berhalter.

    I’d go with either Joel Sonora or Alex Mendez then.
     
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  20. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Not to excuse Greg, but I've been saying all summer the waiting until January to hire him hurt roster selection more as before the gold Cup he had only 2 camps 1 of which was camp cupcake. This doesnt seem like a big idea but due to lack of time to look at all players you instead go with players you know
     
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  21. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nagbe probably done with the national team, let's be honest.
     
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  22. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt but he’s 20, in a new league, on a new team, with massive expectations, and played a ton of minutes this summer. A couple of weeks ago I’d say call him. Having watched him play. And see him running out of steam at the 60 minute mark... I’m reconsidering. Even with that I’m still torn.
     
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  23. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See ya Nagbe. Next. Not even worth dwelling on, he lied too, he said that he's never spoke to Berhalter....what a lie lmao. Read Twellman's tweets.

    If I'm not mistaken he's now declined 3 call-ups, at least one under JK, GC 2019 and Sept 2019. See ya.
     
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  24. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe some of our criticisms of berhalters selections are actually more uninformed then we care to admit.

    I can’t believe nagbe would suggest back at the GC that “there had been no contact with GGG” when he was declining a call up. Talk about purposely trying to make GGG and IS soccer look bad. Why would he do that?
     
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  25. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Yeah, I was one asking why Nagbe was being ignored, turns out maybe he wasn't. Who knows the reasons, but I can't say I care a whole lot. If he doesn't want to play for USNT, that's his decision. He's not our future anyhow, so time to just move on.

    Now, if only we could move on from another few older players.
     
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