1. Cutting out the China and Middle-east fodder. 2. Changing of tactics to fast attacks and counters instead of possession ball and 1v1 pressing. To STY's credit, it's what he's known for. 3. Players' motivation and mental state. How would you feel knowing the KFA are lying and rejected chance to have Hiddink on board while constantly backbiting Euro based players while always putting Lee Dong Guk and 'inside' players in KNT? Now that Hiddink is not in the picture, players are stepping up. 4. Jesus loves Korea.
I don't think you can put J-League to the same level as CSL. But it's not superior to K-League as many claim. K-League players are underrated and the last games showed that.
Serbian goal scorer looks like Theon Greyjoy. Colombia beat China 4-0 btw. Classy Colombian third world video editing here.
It's because he's 32 and never played outside of East Asia, hence why he's not a sexy pic to many. But the man constantly puts good performances for us. If he keeps this up, he absolutely deserves a ticket to Russia and even our Starting Eleven.
It's a different league between K-League and J-League. K-League have had more success in the Asian competition but J-League matches can be more technical at times (tho i haven't seen any J-League matches last few years). And J-League have their sh*t together in terms of having a productive and fun domestic league, which K-league can't do.
I think both leagues have their pros and cons. But Stielike constantly ignored K-League players and that was the problem. But to the J-league's defense, Stielike ignored it too. Anyway J/K>ME/CSL imo
So, according to your deluded mind, their league groomed them to play exceptionally at 2002 WC? ROFL! Without Hiddink, I don't think our team would even make it out of group stages.
No. According to your deluded mind, you are constantly telling us that these players are moving to Japan and ruining their careers. I just showed you an example that it doesn't have to ruin a career. Focus on getting your driver's license kid and your hs grades instead of saying the same xenophobic things over and over.
PJS and co. succeeded in their respective careers because Hiddink played a vital part in it, you dumbfcuk. Where are you getting the idea that playing in that garbage league elevated their careers? LOL
And where are you getting the idea that I said playing in the Japanese league "elevated" their careers? Go back and show me. Idiot kid can't read.
There is a thin line between our offense and defense because the former, most are playing in Europe where speed and counterattack football is normal and latter, where they couldn't make a SINGLE pass to the offense. This is the difference in quality.
Or you know, the offensive players that we have went to Europe in first place because they had the talent and ability, whereas the defenders are moving around all over Asia because they never had the ability to. You got your logic backwards there, kid.
I only watched the highlight. I thought we played well. We seem like the better team. 1. SHM played well compared to what he usually shows. Could have gotten few more goals if it wasn't for the GK. He dribbled well and he gave a lot of trouble to the Serbian Defence. He created few shooting opportunities for himself. 2. I didn't think the defending was that bad minus the passing. It got better as time passed I feel. Serbia didn't really pose a lot of threat other then when they scored. 3. Ki is an important player, he makes thing happen. 4. Kwon is a good sidekick type of player, he's a good offensive player to have. Not Son or Ki status but need to start for all our games. 5. Even though this was a good showing compared to the previous 2 qualifiers and Russia and Morocco games, we need to take things with a grain of salt. In the last cycle around the same time we managed to beat Switzerland. We tend to play really well in Korea. But our offensive seems promising compared to having 0 shots on goal games. 6. Some of us think we found the right players etc like the GK, full-backs, Go Yohan, Kwon Kyungwon and even Lee Keunho. But we can't just judge them by one or two games. I'm still sceptical about them. 7. Even though Son Heungmin is a good player, I feel like he's our only offensive threat. Mind you he's also very inconsistent and I feel like if he's in his bad game then we'll have a very hard game. I think we need to add another offensive player that can be a goal threat as well. 8. Next month we're going to be playing in the East Asian tournament. Hopefully Kim Minjae is fully recovered and we try out Han Chanhee and few other players. It's time to experiment of Asian based players. January we might also try out of Asian based players again. I think the best time to judge our team will be March during the international break. Hopefully we play in Europe and add some European based players like Suk Hyunjun, Ji Dongwon, Lee Seungwoo, Paik Seungho and Han Chanhee. Then it'll be the two games before the WC and that'll probably decide how well we'll play.
I mostly agree on your points. Though i thought you forgot to mention how good Lee Jae Sung was in the two games. He impressed me as much as Kwon Chang Hoon, but both have very different strengths. Also, I disagree on the "good defending" against Serbia. Maybe it wasn't clear from the highlights, but Jang Hyun Soo and Kim Young Gwon were disastrous again. One (KYG) with a lot of horrible positioning errors (which also led to the first goal) and the other (JHS) with several header clearings right towards the opponent and also stupid pass mistakes (plus one home run shot in every game). If it was a serious game against a stronger opponent (not Serbia's B team), we would've conceded 3+ goals today. The CB pair against Colombia was way more balanced. Even JHS played better then. I mean, those two have gotten soooo many chances! I think it's enough. And 99% of all Korean fans think like that. Unfortunately, STY seems to wanna stick with them :/ Edit: I also agree to not too hype up the players that have played well. HOWEVER, I think they deserve to get tested more often (Cho Hyun Woo, Kwon Kyung Won, Choi Chul Soon, Ko Yo Han, Lee Keun Ho), while others who have failed to impress need to make ways for others (Jung Woo Young, Kim Young Gwon, Lee Jung Hyub). It's a really painful choice, but I'd keep Jang Hyun Soo over Kim Young Gwon as a backup member because he fits STY's style more and is versatile (for emergency cases in DM/RB). I think one of them needs to leave tho.
Son Heung-min on yielding his penalty kick to Koo Ja-cheol against Serbia: "I took the penalty that Ja-cheol drew against Morocco last month. It was only the right decision for me to let him take it this time."— Steve Han • 한만성 (@realstevescores) November 14, 2017 Serbia captain Branislav Ivanovic: "Son Heung-min is a really great player. I thought he was a really difficult player to defend. He's a goalscoring threat as soon as you give him any kind of space."— Steve Han • 한만성 (@realstevescores) November 14, 2017 Ki Sung-yueng on the World Cup draw that's set to take place next month: "Every team at the World Cup is stronger than us, but I hope we can at least avoid Spain, Germany and Brazil."— Steve Han • 한만성 (@realstevescores) November 14, 2017
JHS was fking shit, as usual, today. So many critical mistakes that could've led to goals. Why the fk is Kim Ho Gon still around btw? He was watching the game along with other KFA ppl. Hopefully that doesnt mean he got a job at KFA again.... I am wondering how HHC will fit into this 4-4-2 formation. Will he be as effective as LKH?
I think HHC will fit well. He's very used to that formation because it's been Salzburg's main formation for years.
I honestly enjoyed seeing KJC take a blatant dive to win the penalty. Grande was right to say that the team's been playing too soft. It was good to see some aggression and gamesmanship from our side for once.
JHS was indeed garbage. His play improved somewhat as the match went along. But his fundamental problem is that he isn't a smart player. He doesn't understand positioning. He plays like a headless chicken chasing after the opposition, which means he cannot command his zonal space. Moreover, he's a disaster when it comes to playing the off-sides trap. It's not like he's 35+ years old and his body won't react quickly enough. His brain won't react quickly, which means he's playing the opposing attackers onside. On top of that, he cannot clear the ball. And he thinks he can pass, but half the time he gives the ball away in the worst possible way. At this point of his career (after it flat-lined since he left the J-League), he should not be considered for another cap. His fundamentals have eroded to the point that he's a net negative. As for KYK... What a stupid boy. Just utterly stupid. On top of that, he's not lazy/unfit. That goal we conceded to Serbia was entirely his fault. He gets turned around because he's weak and his positioning was off. Then he lazily and halfheartedly tried to recover but lost out on the footrace. That dragged everyone else out of position leading to a collapse of our defensive shape. Serbia finds the man advantage and scores. That wasn't a lack of talent. It was a LACK of fundamentals and willpower. Another hopelessly lost cause. I can almost tolerate JHS playing, but not KYK.
Some stats for #Korea vs #Serbia:Possession: Korea 57.7%, Serbia 42.3%Shots (on target): Korea 17(8), Serbia 10(2)Passes: Korea 483, Serbia 370Pass completion rate: Korea 85.3%, Serbia 79.8%Duels: Korea 62.5%, Serbia 37.5%Aerial duels: Korea 42.2%, Serbia 57.8%#KNT— The Old Tavern Owner (@taeguk_warrior) November 15, 2017 Average position of both sides (via visual sports):Notice how the side really looks like a 4-2-3-1 with Koo in the set up, but defensively was a solid 4-4-2. Is it more a change of approach rather than a change of shape? pic.twitter.com/sYZ96jmhMb— The Old Tavern Owner (@taeguk_warrior) November 15, 2017