International friendlies 2021 ✈

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by sbahnhof, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    van Veenendaal saved her team on more than one occasion plus coupe of Spain shots went just wide the post or hit the woodwork. Really with just tiny bit of luck this match would've ended 5-0
     
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  2. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To be fair, imo only France and England besides Spain and the USA are teams I'd rank clearly above NL. All the other countries are just as poor, with Germany at least potentially still with room for clear improvement.
     
  3. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Which is what?
     
  4. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Spain have one major advantage to pretty much every national team in the world at the moment: Their line-up is made up of players largely from one club, Barcelona. It's easier for them to just pick up their normal game on international weeks. Many teams have to gather players from half a dozen leagues around Europe and start all over every other month. When major tournaments come around, and other teams are allowed to prepare for weeks on pre-camps, Spain's advantage will not be wiped out, but less visible.
     
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  5. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    I would add Japan to it :) (and in near future China as well)

    Japan team at WWC 2019 (mostly U23 at the time) outplayed the Dutch in latter part of 2nd half of their round of 16 match. Oranje were quite lucky to advance with this favorable PK call given to them in dying minutes.
    Both Spain and Japan narrowly lost their otherwise close round of 16 matches against tournament ultimate finalists. (both with little help from refs)

    Both countries has produced in past 6-8 years some of the best young players on the world youth stage - including the finalist of the last WWC U-20.

    Imo if Japan would had to play the Dutch today instead of Spain, the run of this match wouldn't be any different - the Dutch would be equally outplayed. Van de Donk, Groenen, Roord were losing the battle against the quality of Alexia, Patri, Aitana and Jenni and it woudn't be any different with Hasegawa, Sugita, Miura and Nakajima on the pitch. Staying long in FA WSL which is mostly based on pace and power and less on creativity is really starting to show among Dutch mids.
     
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  6. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    England and France are notorious for under-achieving when it counts.
     
  7. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Diacre should be very pleased. Caution to the wind for "old guards" was just thrown - you all are replaceable ;)
     
  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
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  9. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    I get the Dutch were poor, but come on regarding 0 for them. Paredes was incredibly lucky not to concede a 78th minute penalty for a poor challenge on Miedema, Patri looked questionably offside on her goal in my opinion, and Spain was incredibly lucky on that poor header from van de Sanden. More like 4-2 and not 5-0.
     
  10. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    Pretty hard to have 20 shots without some quality, and if it was the case perhaps you tell whoever was shooting to stop shooting.

    And speaking of quality shots, Jessie Fleming one-upped Guro Reiten yesterday:


    I believe the comment someone quoted the Americans as saying was "we could win without a coach." Well when you're Chelsea and you have players like that sitting on your bench, it would take some pretty majestic coaching to f**k it up.
     
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  11. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    I love that saying.
     
  12. West Ender

    West Ender Member

    Dec 28, 2020
    Southwest
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who said that?
     
  13. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #63 Lechus7, Apr 9, 2021
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2021
    By that logic add to the final result all the 50/50 calls also not given to the Spain team. Difference in result should still be 5.... or more. ;)

    Shots.

    ESP 20-1 NED


    if Aussie will play toe to toe with Germany tomorrow.... then worry.
    It's gonna be hard to bounce back against them.
    Only one FIFA window for friendlies after this one before Olympic starts.

    EDIT. Oh, one more thing. Every team that's is going to Tokyo is deciding about now how to trim their roster. Versatile players are in grater demand than specialized ones. That seem to be a problem for this highly-specialized Dutch team.
     
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  14. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Interesting. I thought Spain got a lot of soft calls and were allowed to kick/push Dutch players without punishment quite a few times. Regardless, what exactly is the clear relevance of 50/50 calls to the scoreline? The moments I mentioned directly impacted the score. Like 60% of those shots were hopeful shots outside the box, but I factored in the Spanish chances when I gave them 4 goals. We’ll just agree to disagree.
     
  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The Lyon fans going into meltdown after the game yesterday because we won with none of their players was really funny. They were gutted.
     
  16. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I guess there are very "hungry" players behind them and they were super-motivated to do their best yesterday.
     
  17. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Felicitas Rauch was tested positive. She and her Wolfsburg teammates Lena Oberdorf, Sara Doorsoun and Svenja Huth are in quarantine. The game against Australia should be played as planned.
     
  18. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Sweden lead 1-0 vs the US in Stockholm after 60 mins. Hurtig the goalscorer.
     
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  19. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wow! Hurtig plays in Italy, in Juventus: I feel as if Italy had scored vs USA. :)

    OK, I'll admit that's over-reaching. :p
     
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  20. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    US came back and equalized a few minutes from time on a Rapinoe penalty. 1-1 final score. Strong Swedish performance.
     
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  21. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    The U.S. scoring on another penalty! That's pretty much how they won the World Cup--penalty shots.
     
  22. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Yes, the Dutch could use 3 Dominque Janssen's instead of 1. And she was playing out of position yesterday.

    I'm no coach, and soccer analysts know a ton more than me--but to me the Dutch 4-3-3, which they ALWAYS play, and usually well, simply was not going to work against a Spanish side that besides being technical and wedded to ball control by nature, started the match with 5 midfielders!
     
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  23. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Montemurro's used Roord differently this season compared to last season, and she plays in midfield or out wide on the Dutch national team. He also has moved van de Donk around the pitch this season, and she played a lot of last season out wide despite almost always being a CAM on the Dutch national team. Stoney had Groenen at CAM for almost all of last season (with two matches at CM and one match as a secondary striker), at her natural CM position for the first half of this season (except Chelsea where she was played as a RW), and at CAM/CM/RW/LW at different moments throughout the second half of this season. Wiegman's also experimented with Beerensteyn at RB, which may well have been a better choice than starting Janssen vs Spain. There's some versatility in this Dutch side in my opinion, but whatever.
     
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  24. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Germany 5 - 2 Australia
    Nüsken 11, Hendrich 48, Brand 62, Freigang 64, Dallmann 90+1 -- Gielnik 82, 90+2

     
  25. West Ender

    West Ender Member

    Dec 28, 2020
    Southwest
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #75 West Ender, Apr 10, 2021
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2021
    Australia with some horrible defending in the first couple goals in that match.
    Couple new faces for Germany; # 19 Jule Brand was very dynamic.
    Nice to see Leonie Maier back on the roster, and as captain to boot.
     

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