Inspectors find empty chemical warheads in Iraq

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  1. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
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    Breaking news headline from Foxnews...
     
  2. Motterman

    Motterman Member

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    From the WashingtonPost:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1280-2003Jan16.html

     
  3. angus_hooligan

    angus_hooligan New Member

    May 15, 2001
    Chicago
    I think yesterday they had found some illegally imported (duel use items banned by the UN) materials.
     
  4. weasel

    weasel Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    NYC
    This plus the weapons report could be considered a breach of 1441, and I'm sure will be by the US. However, I doubt this will change anyones minds. If anything, this will be used as proof that inspections alone will disarm Iraq.

    Additionally, illegal dual use items are nothing new, either.
     
  5. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

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    I wonder how we'll reconcile the fact that we supplied them with those chemical weapons.
     
  6. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    ok boys and girls, lets slow down and see what happens with this before we go jumping to conclusions (either way)
     
  7. CrewDust

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    Bombs away :)
     
  8. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
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    Too late, we already nuked 'em
     
  9. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
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    [​IMG]
    One of the best songs of 2000.
     
  10. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

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    NPR reports that anti-Saddam grafitti is popping up all over Baghdad.
     
  11. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
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    Could this be the first sign of the war for their minds, followed closely by military force? I hope not.
     
  12. angus_hooligan

    angus_hooligan New Member

    May 15, 2001
    Chicago
    That can't be. 100% of the people there love Saddam.
     
  13. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
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    If these reports are true, I expect to see the war start by the end of next week.
     
  14. TheWakeUpBomb

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    latest...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1307-2003Jan16.html

    But Lt. Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, the chief Iraqi liaison officer to the inspection teams, said they were short-range shells imported in 1988 and mentioned in Iraq's December declaration.

    He expressed "astonishment" over "the fuss made about the discovery by a U.N. inspection team of 'mass destruction weapons.' It is no more than a storm in a teacup," Amin told a news conference hastily called after the U.N. announcement.

    Amin said the inspection team found the munitions in a sealed box that had never been opened and was covered by dust and bird droppings.

    "When these boxes were opened, they found 122-mm rockets with empty warheads. No chemical or biological warheads. Just empty rockets which are expired and imported in 1988," Amin said, adding similar rockets were found by U.N. inspectors in 1997.
     
  15. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

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    Apparently, it's grafitti by Iraqis, which can only mean Saddam is losing control of the internal police forces.
     
  16. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
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    True. He won that last election by a landslide.
     
  17. weasel

    weasel Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    NYC
    FWIW, there was a program on the Discovery or History channel a while back about the development of Iraqs chemical weapons during the '80s. It turns out that the Germans provided much more equipment and technical expertise than the US in the development of Iraq's chemical weapons program.
     
  18. Motterman

    Motterman Member

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    Re: latest...

    OK, so, Iraq has been caught with rockets that have the capacity and range to deliver chemical agents to neighboring nations. What's more, they were mentioned in Iraq's December declaration? Weren't all munitions supposed to be
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    A) disclosed as having existed
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    and
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    B) documentation on their destruction
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    If that's correct, I think we very well may have the vaunted "material breach".
     
  19. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    That's why they all voted for him.
     
  20. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    A bumpersticker I saw in Baghdad: "Don't blame, me I voted for... ok, I voted for Saddam too."
     
  21. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    This kind of missile has a 6-12 mile (10-20km) range depending on the version. It is only a battlefield weapon.
     
  22. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    The key issue for me will be whether it was disclosed. Hell if I am going to read 1200 pages in arabic to determine whether it was disclosed or not. I know some news media types will. Fox News will have an expert that says it clearly wasn't disclosed, CNN will have an expert that says, it looks to me like it was closed.

    To me this is all a red herring in the big scheme of things. From my understanding the Bush administration and Britian are getting ready to release the smoking guns and then go to war shortly thereafter. That will be much more fun than this.

    Side note, the one that they say has to be tested sounds like they don't think it was "empty" but wasn't sure exactly what was in it. I think what it has in it might be the most interesting part of the story.

    Who gives a crap about how far these missles go. It probably kills Kurds the best.
     
  23. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Ladies and gentleman...your tax dollars at work.

    Must be like the new movie The Recruit.

    NYPD catches this misfit band of taggers who have been hitting major buildings in the five administrative units of New York City. The CIA has been looking for just this chance to up the propaganda in Iraq. After an offer the kids can't refuse, they are deployed in the belly of the beast. Armageddon meets Beat Street. TAG SADDAM!

    TAG!

    YOU

    ARE

    IT!

    Summer 2004
    This film is not yet rated.
     
  24. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    What evil can they do?

    It is not like they can be drawing funny moustaches on all his billboards!
     
  25. gofire2001

    gofire2001 New Member

    Apr 5, 2001
    Section 8 Chicago
    Almost no doubt in my mind that we will be at war within a month or two.
     

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