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  1. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    On the contrary, I put in much more time than you on your supposed claims. Remember how I rebutted your "deplorables" post and you said nothing in response? Or what about the comment Obama made and you remained silent.

    You choose to believe what right wing sources tell you to believe and you are completely incapable of explaining or defending your views when challenged. I'm the one doing much deeper dives on the topics, providing everything in context. You just spit out what you are told and don't have the decency to actually engage in conversations about the topic.

    Sounds to me like you are the one who is refusing to read more and find the truth. "You can't handle the truth!"
     
  2. wantmlsphilly

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    Snopes is left wing.
     
  3. Sounders78

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    I provided the context, in full. Show me where my analysis was wrong. Not using websites, whether right or left - you show me by quoting what I said and then indicate how my analysis is wrong. If you are unable to, it shows you have not actually looked into this and are simply repeating what you have been told.
     
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  4. wantmlsphilly

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    Seven years later they finally printed the truth.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/
     
  5. Sounders78

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    Are you incapable of reading? I quoted him in context. Go back and read it and tell me how my analysis was wrong, if you are able. Either he was saying there are good people on both sides regarding Charlottesville, in response to a direct question about Charlottesville, or he was saying there were good people defending the Confederate statues because he was confused as to the context of Charlottesville. Which is it? For ********'s sake, stop being a coward and deal with my post in context.


    Here's a snippet, not the full context I provided earlier that you are simply ignoring.


    Reporter: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

    Trump: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
     
  6. wantmlsphilly

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    Why are you not reading the whole thing? What's the final verdict at the bottom?
     
  7. Sounders78

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    I did read the entire thing, enough to know that the Snopes article was written by a college student. I teach college and know that college students are not authorities.

    Why have you not read the full context of the quote I provided and responded to what I actually wrote, instead of appealing to what other people say? Are you not able to think for yourself?

    Either Trump is an idiot for confusing Charlottesville with the Confederate statues, and was claiming that there are good people among those who were defending the statues, or he was saying there are good people on both sides of the Charlottesville issue. Read the full context of his quote and respond to what I wrote, please. Stop dodging it because you refuse to actually read his quote for yourself in context.



    Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"

    Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. "But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is. [My comment: Really? The left came violently attacking the other group in Charlottesville or in the taking down of the Robert E Lee statues, whichever one he was talking about?]

    Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

    Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

    Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

    Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
     
  8. wantmlsphilly

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    Oh, college student. Because you're picking and choosing quotes out of context and you're doing for a reason.
     
  9. Sounders78

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    Um, I'm the one providing the full context that you are refusing to read. Now read this full context and tell me where I am wrong. I know you are able to read. Or are you too scared to read what he said because you will have to admit to yourself he is an idiot? Why, when asked about Charlottesville, did he supposedly talk about the Robert E Lee statue? Is he confused?



    Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"

    Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. "But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is. [My comment: Really? The left came violently attacking the other group in Charlottesville or in the taking down of the Robert E Lee statues, whichever one he was talking about?]

    Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

    Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

    Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

    Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
     
  10. wantmlsphilly

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  11. Sounders78

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    #1911 Sounders78, Sep 18, 2024
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    Posting clips is not explaining - seriously, how old are you? Seven? I already know what he said because I posted it word for word, just like I did with Hillary (and you refused to discuss that as well). You are simply refusing to respond to what I wrote. Why? What are you scared of? Will your world crash down if you start critically analyzing things the orange idiot says?

    Now, please respond IN YOUR OWN ********ING WORDS:
    Why, when asked about Charlottesville, did he supposedly talk about the Robert E Lee statue? Is he confused?
     
  12. wantmlsphilly

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    No you don't, because there is more than what you're posting. And you're blaming things on a fictional college kid is the best. I love people like you because when I have this debate with people on the fence and how both candidates are using this and then show them the actual press conference....I get Trump voters.
     
  13. Sounders78

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    Then tell me what I'm missing. Don't post a youtube clip or tell me to read everything, actually show me yourself - using words. Point out what I'm missing - be specific. I've gone to great lengths to break things down for you, the least you can do is to respond in kind.

    And it's not a fictional college kid - it's the person who wrote the Snopes article, who is a college student, that you are appealing to.
     
  14. superdave

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    Pretty ironic there champ
     
  15. superdave

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    Wait, if you’re telling people what to believe, and they automatically believe you, doesn’t that mean they’re violating the doctrine of “I did my own research” that’s the foundation of your belief system?
     
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  17. superdave

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  18. superdave

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    Despite the threat of car puns becoming the new fish puns, I’m gonna post this.

    Im not being Cavalier about this.

     
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  19. superdave

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    Is our media learning?

     
  20. superdave

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    The baby lol

     
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