In which we yet again post yet another ten thousand plus interesting or amusing -or neither- tweets

Didn’t realize Kamala had set up shop on Truth Social. Presumably rent free like in Trumps head. pic.twitter.com/g7Mlhb46Go

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 12, 2024

 

Colorado, Massachusetts and Oregon. Once a Republican state does it, then we can talk.

You do realize that white people aren't the only church-going Christian population in this country, right?

Also, when I look at the electoral college it seems like a Democrat needs to win in the South to have a shot at the presidency. A gay Presidential candidate is not going to win in the South.

 

Why is winning a Republican state a prerequisite? Harris seems to be on her way to victory by rebuilding the blue wall, i.e. without winning a GOP state. Pete could do the same.

 

In the 2020s, winning everything north of Virginia (not inclusive), winning the Great Lakes (MN, WI, IL, MI, PA), winning the blue Pacific (WA, OR, CA, HI) and then the southern Rockies (CO and NM) gets you to 256. That means the gay guy will have to win swing states or lean Republican states with large numbers of either Hispanic or Black church-going Democrat voters. I do not believe that would happen. Now take it to the 2030s and those electoral numbers likely get harder, based on the changes from 2010s to 2020s.

Have a look at how Pete did in 2020 primaries. Pete barely won Iowa with 26.2%, followed by a close 2nd place in New Hampshire with 24.3%, then finished a distant 3rd in Nevada with 17.3%, and followed it up a week later with 8.2% in South Carolina. Pete won only 2% of the black vote in South Carolina. If you can show me that black church-going voters will support a gay guy, then he might have a chance to be the nominee. If he can't be the nominee without them, much less become president.

 

Well, they will have that option this time...

But the numbers that might flip Democrat but not to a gay Democrat are too small to be worth chasing or even letting deflect us from an otherwise desirable path.

 

Being gay is a on-factor IMHO. And what experience exactly did Antony Blinken have besides being Biden's right-hand man for his entire career?

Pete is incredibly sharp -- I think being SecState would be a perfect fit for him in a Harris administration.

 

I didn't realize Anthony Blinken was elected President of the USA. I must have missed those years.

 

"Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan, Blinken..."

 

We’ll have to agree to disagree. There are so many factors we don’t know about what the political landscape will be in 2036 or 2040. Certainly almost no one in the early 1990s thought that a black man would be elected president by 2008.

It might be that Mayor Pete’s very difficult last name will be almost as much of a factor as his being gay.☺️

 

By the time America is ready for a gay president, Pete will be too old.

 

In 2040 Pete will be younger than Harris is now.

 

Buttigieg isn’t going to win not because he’s gay, but because he doesn’t have the personality and his greatest achievement is being mayor of the town from Rudy.

 

so weird...

Is this real? If it is, Trump has really lost it. https://t.co/ZmU90UMS1o

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) August 11, 2024

 

Doesn't have the personality? Who do you have him confused with, anyways? Did you remember to put up the sign that says "out to lunch" when you left?

 

Him being gay is an issue, but I agree that the bigger issue is that he hasn't won anything of note to prove himself as a politician.

If he can go win a senate seat or a governorship, then he can think of himself as being a realistic candidate for POTUS.


This is no different than Beto winning like, jack and shyte, and then thinking he can run for POTUS in 2020.

 

i doubt there is anyone on Earth that cares more about crowd size than Donald Trump. You get the sense he would rather win the crowd size battle than win the election.

He reminds me of the colonel in Catch-22 who didn’t care about beating the Germans, just about the parades.

 

It would have been nice to have him as VP.

It would set him up for 2032. (Or 2028 if Trump wins)

 

He sounds like the guy who is announcing layoffs while boasting about how it would improve productivity. If I’m writing a bland corporate suit, he’s the template. Right down the way he talks.

Tim Walz has personality. He comes across as a stereotypical Midwestern dad.

 

Meh, as a VP candidate, him being gay is a bigger issue than him not having won anything on a Harris-lead ticket; for POTUS, I think its the opposite.

Both his sexual orientation and him not having won anything can both be issues for him as a candidate for national office.


If he wants to run in '28, or '32, he can go win a Senate seat or Governorship somewhere before then. If not, there are plenty of kingmakers/queenmakers and policy types that can work in government as well.

 

I don't want to yuck your yum but you're writing off every single Democrat that happens to be from a solidly Republican state. According to that line of thinking, Abraham Lincoln should have just written off politics to become a policy type, eh?

 

It's like losing the game, but at least you won the battle of possession.

But size does matter! You don't want to have porn stars telling everyone your crowd looked like a shriveled up mushroom, do you?

 

Times change.

That is, unless you think the world, and this nation's politics are identical to that of the mid 19th Century.


Also, I thought that he'd moved to MI, so there are pathways forward for him in statewide politics that are not available to him in IN.

 

Eh -- I conflated my thoughts. Regardless, I still think Pete would make a great SecState AND POTUS.

After 8 years as Walz's VP folloing 8 years in the Harris cabinet, he'll be primed for the top job!

 

Do people that invest in Trump’s media company believe in gnome underpants?

The New York Times continues to out-New York Times itself. pic.twitter.com/2tMzijuaUQ

— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) August 12, 2024