In Bid to Revive Nuclear Power, U.S. Is Backing New Reactors

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  1. Mach1

    Mach1 Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Holly Springs, GA
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    Building a facility that eliminates the need for the main export of the state… That’ll be a hard sale.
     
  2. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
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    That was kinda my point. Someone needs to wrestle control of that state from the people actively destroying it. And I think the case can be made.

    "People of WV, as you probably already know, the days of Big Coal are already numbered. These nuclear facilities are going to make the economics even more untenable for an industry that is destroying your state by shaving the tops off of all your mountains, dumping the leavings in your backyards and streams and giving you cancer.

    So you can either keep hanging on to Big Coal, which has been screwing you for decades, or you can move on and start to rebuild your economy in a way that won't leave it dependent on a single, dying industry. Choose wisely."
     
  3. Mach1

    Mach1 Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Holly Springs, GA
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    Or just move out and move on.

    I love the state, and it will always be home, but the economy...

    That's a topic for a different thread. Regardless, West Virginians can be as stubborn as they come, and I would be amazed if any nuclear power plants got built in WV without the federal government forcing them to do so.
     
  4. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
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    I know, I know... it just sucks that the people there are so afraid that they're allowing the industry to completely ignore the actual costs of their preferred mining method. That method:

    a) requires MASSIVE transport truck that are themselves a major polution source.

    b) permanently destroys headwaters that are essential for many ecological processes

    c) pollutes the hell out of the streams and rivers all the way to the Atlantic

    d) leeches deadly toxins into the drinking water

    e) releases deadly toxins into the air

    f) only focuses on physical stabilization during the reclamation process, which is only the tip of the iceberg

    g) ruins any chance at developing a tourism economy (WV really is a beautiful place)

    h) doesn't actually require that many workers, so contributes very little to the local economy

    And all of this to extract arguably the worst of the worst of our energy source options...
     
  5. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

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    Finally. While not perfect, it's still the best option at the moment and for the foreseeable future...

    We need a comprehensive plan to begin using green energy resource, but use the best none green resource (nuclear energy) until green enery reaches the cost threashold.
     
  6. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    This is timely. The government in Niger that made deals to sell uranium to China has been overthrown. Maybe we can get that stuff from the brand new Chinese-financed mines instead.
     
  7. saosebastiao

    saosebastiao New Member

    May 22, 2005
    Why not thorium reactors? They worked before, they could work again. Other countries seem to be able to see the potential advantages, but we seem to only care about plutonium.
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    Three Mile Island is reopening and selling its power to Microsoft | CNN Business

    Constellation Energy announced Friday that its Unit 1 reactor, which closed five years ago, is expected to be revived in 2028, dependent on Nuclear Regulatory Commission approval. Microsoft will purchase the carbon-free energy produced from it to power its data centers to support artificial intelligence.
    Financial terms of the 20-year agreement, which Constellation called the largest ever, weren’t disclosed.
     
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  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    Build, baby build.

    In this case, re-start.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    and you are not worried by earthquakes, floods and human error...just curious
     
  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    Zombie thread!

    Speaking of which, does nuclear radiation create zombies? :cautious:
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    The risk is low, but yes, it's not zero.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Besides I'm a good deal more concerned about global warming.
     
  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    I'd still prefer windmills and solar, but I understand that nuclear is a way better option than "drill baby drill".
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    that is fair and my solar panels and those windmills are not net carbon zero
     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    Some numbers (not official)

     
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  17. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Problems with nuclear:
    Huge startup cost
    Hard to get approval for a new site
    Need LOTS of water
    Need LOTS of concrete
    Take a good while to be commissioned (5yrs is if everything goes smoothly, which never happens in the US)
    Russia is still about the only place to get fuel rods
    Uranium in the US is largely found on land we’ve relegated American Indians too, and they ain’t having it (similar to lithium)​

    smart to relaunch an existing one. Even though it is expensive, at least it will actually happen.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Also all the cleanup costs inevitably get left with the bagholders (i.e you and me)
     
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  19. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Yes. But also remember that burning coal releases even more radiation overall than does nuclear. Nuclear contamination is largely contained, and acutely toxic, whereas burning coal and refining&burning petroleum spreads its radiation out across the globe. We are paying for the costs of massive energy consumption one way or another.
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    Yeah burning coal is the dumbest timeline
     
  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    And much deadlier. 40 Iranians died in a mine explosion over the weekend and these kind of deaths are so commonplace they are barely news.
     
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