News: Impact Sub - OGS The New Gaffer Thread

We keep getting performance bumps from coaching changes. The front office will continue to press their luck with changing coaches. Nothing is going to change any time soon.

 

With Nagelsmann, the team would need an overhaul. He would need a grace period like the one Klopp enjoyed at Liverpool.

Allegri and Pochettino are more capable of working with the hand they are given.

My only complaint against Allegri was how he mishandled Pirlo while at Milan. That decision kick started Juventus dominance this past decade. To Allegri's credit, he did make it work with Pirlo at Juventus, and took them to a UCL final twice.

Pochettino I felt blew it for Tottenham in 2016 when they were chasing Leicester for the title. That was their golden chance to win a title and I'm not sure they'll get another chance like that. He reminds me a lot of Kevin Keegan. At a minimum, he will make United more fun.

They are good managers, despite the above complaints. Pochettino would probably do a better job of putting Bruno, van de Beek, and Pogba on the same pitch. Allegri would instill better defensive organization, but I think at the cost of United's attacking flair. Between the two, Pochettino gets my vote.

I would agree Nagelsmann is the best choice if United want to play to Liverpool's level, but United could still take on the likes of Liverpool in a more defensive fashion and still win under a manager like Ole, Deschamps, or Allegri. With Pochettino and Nagelsmann, they can try to go toe-to-toe.

 

FT: Everton 1-3 Manchester United

Whenever Ole Gunnar Solskjaer needs a result... pic.twitter.com/hboyXpIbDJ

— B/R Football (@brfootball) November 7, 2020

 

A pretty good summary of where we are and how we got here;

Ole Gunnar Solskjær’s position has been undermined – his next phase of managing Manchester United will be his toughest yet | @GarrickOmar

— utdreport (@utdreport) November 9, 2020

 

The Premier League top six since the end of the January transfer window #mulive [sky] pic.twitter.com/IuR1745zKX

— utdreport (@utdreport) December 4, 2020

 

I like Ole but lets have a look at that table on December 31.

 

Considering the extra challenges of this season (compressed nature, no pre-season, CL so no easy squad rotation, poor summer window etc) I think we will continue to see some odd results in this league.

This season has been and will continue to be more of a test of teams squad depth and manager rotation (linked to schedule). Two factors we are not good with - squad depth is poor in many areas (FB, DM, CB, RWF) and Ole wants to win too hard so will overplay some key players especially if we remain in CL.

There will be a price to pay in Dec/Jan/Feb with injuries for some teams if previous years are anything to go by.

 

Zonal marking especially our near-post vulnerability needs addressing - how many more games of conceding these before some changes?

 

I'm just wondering how long until Poch is signed by Real and we're left wondering what/who to do next.

At this point, can we really argue that Poch wouldn't at least improve things? Even if the real problem is Ed and the Board.

 

So do we go with the number of players or with the majority of the players? Gotta love that language they use on us knuckleheads.

I am going to side on whichever side Maguire is not on. Lol

 

So definitely against Ole then.

 

Maguire was a Mou guy, if you remember. But then, I think you are too.

 

If another manager comes in, some of these players could be deemed surplus to requirements.

 

FYP and now you are ready to be a Twitter reporter.

 

If Naglesmann were to come, and given the kind of game he would want to play, no question he'd make a lot of changes over a couple of transfer windows. As far managers go, he'd probably be one of the few who could genuinely keep pace with what Klopp is achieving at Liverpool.

 

Managers making changes over transfer windows is more in the hands of the Glazers and our Chief Exec than the manager.

Is for example why we still have dead-weights like Rojo, Jones. Why we continue to miss many of the targets these managers put on their wish-lists.

That was the case for LVG, Mou and Ole - a different manager will not change that. Whoever is next will still have to work with those constraints sadly.

 

Exactly. Certain player, like Maguire for example, were targeted by the last manager and then purchased for the new manager. How much input the managers have in purchases at United is anyone’s guess. Guys like Herrera, Pogba, and Sanchez seem more like club buys than manager buys. Thinking about it, I was going to say Daniel James was an Ole buy but seems like the cheap Chicharito-type bargain United has been stacking up on in the recent past.

 

Much of that is true, but if a manager has a set philosophy and the hierarchy buy into it, then they'll need players who fit that philosophy.

As an example, Werner could possibly have become United player if Nagelsmann were in charge. We might be talking about a team now that progressed into the knockout stages of the UCL too.

I think if Nagelsmann doesn't end up at United, he will probably end up at an English rival and he would probably have a similar effect Klopp has had at Liverpool.

This United side is still very strong and capable of success with or without Nagelsmann. If Cristiano signs in swap deal for Pogba, I could even see the club sticking it out with Ole and challenging for titles. If Bruno can take United from midtable to top four under Ole, Cristiano might be that difference to push the club even further, whether the manager is Ole, Pochettino, or whomever.

 

Cristiano won't have us challenging for titles.

Ole is not a premiership winning manager.

Bruno's impact is not enough to push us into a perennially top four position his impact last season notwithstanding.

We are too dysfunctional and incomplete in so many different areas.

 

Sack him FFS

 

Our squad is good enough to finish top 4. Our management and coaching is not. Look at how many times we start slow or don't have any idea what we doing until the second half.

 

No disagreements. Just pointing out that Bruno's involvement is not enough as you pointed out management and coaching is a hindrance