Impact sign new head coach - Alessandro Nesta?

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  1. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
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    Germany
    And the goalposts move again. Go watch a baseball game. Oh, you can't because your last pro sports owner sucked as well.
     
  2. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Besides that I do believe Schallibaum was signed to one year contract. This seems like it was set up to have Nesta take over once he was ready. He missed a lot of games for Montreal and I would believe that during his time off he probably learned how to manage in the MLS. If Nesta is in control and given the chance to truly manage this team it has two results depending how long he is given to manage.
     
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  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #53 falvo, Nov 3, 2013
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    Yeah most likely. Since he moved out here he has acclimated to the level , speaks English better and has the respect of most of the players. I also think Saputo will use him as a filter to scout and coax some more Serie A and B players to sign with the club. I had read in the Gazzetta Dello Sport that Milan wanted to offer him the coaching job of the primavera youth squad but I guess he may like Montreal's offer more. Considering Massimo Allegri job is on the line at Milan, Nesta could stay in Canada, learn to coach for a year or two, then take over the rossoneri after he gains experience.
     
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  4. mls2010

    mls2010 Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Yeah, and then Milan gave the youth coaching job to Inzhagi. Should be interesting to track their coaching careers and see who made the better decisions.
     
  5. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Inzhagi has had that job for two years though so I'm not exactly sure what they offered Nesta. Maybe the U14's.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The previous two expansion teams are Portland and Vancouver.

    Vancouver has had three head coaches.
    Teitur Thordarson - experienced head coach
    Tom Soehn - interim with long experience as an assitant
    Martin Rennie - experienced head coach who worked his way up with success at both the D3 and D2 levels.

    Portland has had three head coaches.
    John Spencer - new head coach with years as an assistant on a successful team
    Gavin Wilkinson - interim with prior experience
    Caleb Porter - long experience as a head coach including U.S. U-23s and NCAA winning Akron Zips.

    Which of those is similar to the rumored change in Montreal?
     
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  7. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    I found some scouting video for Sigi:

     
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  8. MFG North Side

    Nov 4, 2012
    Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

    Both.

    Like Rennie and Porter before him, he's never coached a game in MLS. What he lacks in coaching experience, he makes up with 2 years spent in MLS as a mentor to younger MLS players, and coaching certificates in Italy. Not to mention a wealth of experience playing at the highest levels in the World.

    How much coaching experience did Jason Kreis have, when he was given the job at RSL?
     
  9. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Continuity wins in this league. A new coach every year is not gonna get the job done.

    Making the playoffs and the CCL in your second year as a franchise is a good year. Saputo seems like he has unrealistic expectations.

    Is it Schallibaum's fault that his team was built around older players? He didn't put the roster together. Maybe he could have managed minutes better but when there is pressure from ownership to get results are you gonna rest these guys a whole lot?

    People got on them for bringing a foreign coach and it seemed like at least Marco Schallibaum managed to adjust to this league. I think that the learning curve for Nesta will be a lot bigger considering that he has never been a coach. And as a guy who spent only a season and a half in MLS, does he know the challenges that coaching in MLS presents as compared with Europe?
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You can't deny Nesta's resume and playing experience, winning a World Cup and also his many medals on the domestic club level. Unless something has changed in the last 5 years anyway, as far as the FIGC is concerned, I don't believe he really needs coaching certificates in Italy to manage a Serie A club as he is a World champion and I believe they are exempt. At least Bruno Conti was when he was appointed head man at Roma in 2005. He may in fact use the MLS/Impact experience as a stepping stone in the same was both Walter Zenga and Giuseppe Galderisi used to jump start their managerial paths.
     
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  11. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Schallibaum should get another shot in MLS. He did well and could probably do better of given a more stabled situation. A three year contract to build his team.
     
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  12. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    This complaint isn't so much about whether or not Nesta will be a good coach. We don't know.

    The argument is that Montreal is pulling the plug on coaches too soon. How long do you think Ellinger would have lasted in Montreal? He lasted 3-seasons-plus-2-months here in Utah before the switch to Kreis in May of 2008.

    Unless situations are dire, or a fantastic opportunity presents itself (which Nesta may be, who knows?), it seems that changing coaches every year is a recipe for guaranteed failure.
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Hah.

    Being an experienced player isn't the same as coaching experience. Both Caleb Porter and Martin Rennie have years of experience - quite successful at that - at coaching prior to starting their MLS jobs.

    Nesta has no experience as an assistant coach, much less a head coach. None.

    That's not an indictment of Nesta - he may work out well like Jason Kreis has - but it is an indictment at your ability to understand equivalencies.
     
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  14. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
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    At least someone read my vibe.

    You're right, I did forget about Arena. Maybe deliberately...
     
  15. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Huh,... apparently you're not explaining it properly TheJoe,... lemme try again for ya, no guarantees though.

    Um... bc the Impact have been more successful than Portland or Vancouver were... just shooting in the dark here...
     
  16. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Where is Peter Vermes? ;)
     
  17. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Too many ex-defenders coaching in MLS right now. Could have had any of him, Kinnear, Bliss, Hackworth or Mark Watson on the backline.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Vermes was a starter at Forward in the World Cup.
     
  19. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Yeah, but can he eat small defenders?
     
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  20. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    I'd give Sigi a punchers chance at finishing off a 5 man back line.

    Given the last 20 record, and the capitulation in the playoffs, I thought the firing was probable and justifiable.
     
  21. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
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    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    surprised no news on this yet or anything from Montreal
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Well, last time I looked they still had a head coach. They would have to get rid of the current one before announcing a replacement.
     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Dom Kinnear was a midfielder.
     
  24. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    For a moment there I thought you were saying Sigi got fired.
     
  25. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    That might get him fired ;)
     

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