Impact of Nations Leagues (UEFA original, Concacaf) on World Football? [Multiple R]

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  1. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wanna say FOX has thrown a Gold Cup Final on the main channel before...
     
  2. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Gold Cup Group Matches have been on FOX.

    Copa America Centenario was also on FOX too.
     
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  3. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Anyone else got the impression that teams are so far treating this Nations League as they would friendlies? That wasn't the case in the 2018-19 NL. Maybe COVID has a lot to do with that. And add to that the fact that this rendition also doesn't mean as much -- instead of 4 Euro qualifying spots coming out of the NL you have 2 playoff spots.

    Anyone know how they determine the 2 playoff spots? Yes "NL ranking" but how do they rank? Do the teams finishing last in league A groups get ranked above or below the group-winners of League B?
     
  4. Probably. The football shown sofar, apart from Belgium, hasnot been great at all. Winning the group is important, as it puts you in spot 1 of your WC qualification pool.
     
  5. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I thought they use FIFA rankings for seeding the qualifying groups?
     
  6. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    COVID has everything to do with it. Remember the laughable defending we saw in the first two weekends of Bundesliga coming back from the break? What we have here is national teams shaking off months of cobwebs, so I'm not surprised.

    And if anything, it's an advantage that the Nations League isn't that crucial. Could you imagine how livid the federations would be if they had to jump from the hiatus straight into WCQ?

    ...or you may not have to imagine at all: we'll see if Conmebol decides to stubbornly insist on starting WCQ next month.

    No - the 2 extra WCQ playoffs berths will go to teams that won their NL groups, but failed to finish top two in their WCQ group.

    Have you not watched Portugal play? o_O And as annoyed as I was that they ruined my bet, that game in Amsterdam was the first enjoyable Italy performance I've seen in years.
     
  7. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Ah okay. So even if you win a League C group you could get to the playoff provided that at least 7 of the group winners in League A & B finished top 2 in WCQ?
     
  8. I compare it with what the teams are capable of and what they put on the pitch was far away from those levels.
     
  9. I might have understood it wrong.
     
  10. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    Correct.
     
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  11. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Furthermore, the UEFA WCQ playoffs will be single-leg ties with the 12 teams drawn into six semi-finals with the winners progressing to three finals, the winners of which will get a ticket to Qatar. This raises the possibility of a team winning its NL group and then having two one-off games at home to qualify for the WC!

    Don't forget that NL games count towards the FIFA ranking and there are several teams who are borderline between draw pots ahead of the October and November NL games which will decide the formation of the pots for the draw on 29 November.
     
  12. HomietheClown

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    They look like teams that have not played together in 10 months or so.
     
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  13. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    True but isn't it quite difficult to move up or down the FIFA rankings with the new formula? I mean, Croatia is still #4 in UEFA ffs! Spain #6.

    If we were still using the previous formula these games would be huge as they would be the only games played this year (and thus not deflated in their point value).
     
  14. :cautious:
    You know it has been 10 months, don't you?o_O
     
  15. HomietheClown

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    Yes, that is why I said it.
     
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  16. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    UEFA have made 3 announcements on their NL:

    1. The Final Four will take place in October 2021...
    2. ...and will be hosted by the Netherlands, Italy or Poland (presumably whichever wins their group, if not Bosnia).
    3. 5 subs are now allowed.
     
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  17. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
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    Good stuff.

    Italy has good chance to host then. Probably Juve's Stadium and San Siro.
     
  18. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States




    And the general announcement:

     
  19. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    --other--
    Makes sense.
    Roma is getting the Euro matches so those two cities should get this tournament.
     
  20. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    What if Bosnia wins that group? :coffee:
     
  21. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should get to pick which of their vanquished foes will host them next year :D
     
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  22. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Looks like almost all of the NL matches are being played on Saturday (11 Oct) and Tuesday instead of spreading them out so that there are matches for 6 straight days. Wonder why the change(?).
     
  23. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's to accommodate the new 3-match FIFA window, with the Euro 2021 playoffs happening the Wednesday prior.
     
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  24. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Which one of those countries has the most Bosnian immigrants? :sneaky:
     
  25. Nico Limmat

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    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    To those still warming up to the UEFA Nations League, how great must it be for fans of the Faroe Islands to see their team top a group after five matchdays? (And how terrible is it for fans of Euro 2004 participants Latvia in the same group?)
     
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