if/when the US attacks (iraq, that is)

If and when Bush does attack Iraq and if he get re-elected in '04 (I’m not a big Bush fan but it will probably happen) I'm guessing the '06 world cup will proceed, as will the Olympics. Assuming Gulf War Pt. 2 stays Isolated in Iraq, I don't see why there would be any reason to stop either competition. Sure terrorism may be a risk, but I think it's a risk we're obviously going to have to live with.

Unless World War Three breaks out I’m guessing the games go on.

Even if the UN and some European allies disagree with US actions, I don't see why Bush would call for the boycott of either event. To boycott the WC or Olympics after the fact of American action wouldn't make sense. What point would doing that achieve?

(Sarcasm) Oh, I'm sure the rest of the world would cry if the US took itself out of the WC or Olympics. That would be harsh punishment for our dissenting "allies". I guess maybe the rest of the world might have a shot at winning in Olympic basketball and Portugal and Mexico might celebrate that we weren't in the WC (end sarcasm).

Even if Bush did call for this boycott I’m quite sure the rest of the world would happily hold the games without us.

Another reason why Bush wouldn't call for the boycott of the WC in '06, I doubt he really even cares much about the event. I'm sure that's the last action he would call for.

I’m pretty sure he would call for the elimination of international broadcast of the Super Bowl first. Maybe he would call for the NFL to cease operations overseas.

If a boycott does happen at either event my guess is it would be the other way around. European or Middle Eastern states would boycott to protest the US’s participation and polices, but that would be effect only if the games were being held in the US. But I don’t that that’s very likely for the European states either seeing as both events are being held in Europe (Germany and Greece).

Anyway that my two cents.

 

Considering Bush has hardly ever even been overseas, I doubt he has the brain power to even comprehend what the world cup means to the rest of the world. He could care less and will go ahead with his illegal invasion of Iraq for his oil interests. Disarm Bush.

 

and why would he do this? please explain the reasoning b/c i see no reason that bush would pull our teams out of any such event...

 

most of my soccer/war related nightmares have to do with worldwide economic chaos precipitating the folding of MLS. I know, I know, it's incredibly shallow given the gravity of the situation.

 

You wouldn't whine if the gas prices got lower.

I can't wait to see the faces of all the anti-war groups when Saddam is sitting there smiling after, let's say, thousands more americans die on American soil...that'll be fun, just to see all these un-patriotic americans sitting there stunned. I'm glad we're going after Iraq, if he's not out to hurt and embarass us he's out to hurt and embarass our allies. We've told him too many times to disarm, and he hasn't, and we wouldn't be going after Saddam if he didn't have the potential to have these weapons and use them. Our intelligence is a lot smarter than that. And don't bring up the things the CIA or FBI forgot about, because the only reason why you're sleeping soundly in your bed at night is because a few good men are out doing the dirty work for little shits like you.

 

If you actually believe all that crap, I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Nevada.

 

and what do you believe in? us going over there just for the oil, just for the oil, maybe we'll pick up some sand too! Bush doesn't think Texas has enough sand, so maybe we'll get some sand too! And we'll go fight our dirty little war but we'll lie to CNN, cuz we're only there for the oil! Geez, you've got to be the smartest person ever! My father fought in Desert Storm, and he sure as hell didn't go over there just for oil. So you go believe all those professors and college students who think they're God Almighty, but I'll believe the sources I grew up with. Oh yeah, nobody ever thought 9-11 would happen, who'd be dumb enough to attack us on our own soil right? But with that 19 yr old pimple faced security guard we got at the airport, it surely won't happen again. Start thinking for yourself and stop being a puppet.

 

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You made about 3 points that don't tie together logically.

 

every government lies to its citizens. Get your head out of the sand. If President select Gush is so right, why is the rest of the world against it? They werent against the first Gulf War. Second, There were 0 Iraqi citizens on those 9/11 planes. Iraq is not Al Queada. Funny how most of the hijackers were Saudis yet you dont see Georgie boy going after them. Why would he? Maybe because he has a bunch of oil contracts with the Saudi royal family.

 

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They'll get lower?
For you guys?

Any more of that and the companies will be paying you to fill up.

 

But who supports those Al Queda? I won't accuse Iraq of doing so in the 9-11 attacks, or the embassy attacks around the world, or any of that, but I will say that Iraq won't be holding back any biological or chemical or even nuclear weapons from these terrorist groups. Saddam could use some money to build another palace in the sand. The reason why everyone is so against it is A)The Bushs' aren't exactly the most fair against Iraq and B)there are no connections between Iraq and Terrorist groups like our government claims. But are we going to wait till that connection happens or are we going to prevent it? It's the liberal media and these anti-war prostestors that believe in that oil crap. Bush won't go against Saudi Arabia because we don't think Saudi Arabia gave Al Queda the funding to carry out such attacks. And we have contracts with OPEC, not single countries. That's why when something happens in Venezuela, our prices go up. Once Again, Iraq has the potential to fund and support terrorist groups and I think we need to stop that before it actually happens.

BTW, mac, it's almost $2 a gallon in SoCal.

 

First of all, federal security has improved at airports. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is it as good as it should be? No.

I'm assuming you're for the war. Your arguements are rather incoherent. People are allowed to have their own opinions, and I for one don't believe much of what comes George Bush's mouth. The anti-war camp does make some valid points. I fail to see why people who agree with the "college students and professors" are puppets.

By the way, I'm for removing Saddam. (By force if neccesary)

 

Political debate on bigsoccer kinda cool.

 

Interesting indeed, although I am not sure I can convince you and you cannot convince me(forgive my family association to military therefore forming my bais against Iraq) but we will hold our views, and you will yours, but we'll both smile when we can fill up our SUV's up at .89 a gallon again(I actually drive a 93 Ford Escort).

 

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1.) Petroleum companies have contracts, not us. Also, Russia, Norway, and Azerbaijan (off the toip of my head) are not in OPEC, and could become suppliers in the near future (particularly Azerbaijan)

2.) Bush won't go against Saudi Arabia because of the amount of oil we import, not because he doesn't believe Al Qaeda was funded by the Saudis.

3.) If we had a contract with OPEC individually, wouldn't the other OPEC countries fill the void when Venezuala (member of OPEC) shut off it oil supply?

 

Actually, there is a politics forum. (This should probably be there)

 

I stand corrected on my OPEC arguement, thank you Footer.

 

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Am I supposed to be shocked by that information?

Are you trying to tell me that's a lot to pay for petrol?
Or are you just reinforcing my first point?

 

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For a broke college student that's a lot. Almost a lot to make me break up with my girlfriend(50 miles away) and never come home again from college(30 miles away). It's just a little shocking when I have to pitch out $20+ to fill up my little hatchback escort. Only a year ago was the gas price below a dollar, it'll be nice to see it back down around $1.50 or below, like it's been for almost a year now, not up to $2. I don't get paid thousands of dollars, I get a scholarship that goes entirely to school, one coaching check, and that's it.With class and soccer there just isn't much time to have a 9-5 job.

 

please dont even say that - even IF thats gonna happen, i just dont want to think about it

 

how depressing. I think I'm gonna drink a fifth of jack.

 

Worldwide opposition to a war with Iraq does not prove the war to be wrong. War is right or wrong based on many other more important factors.

 

Oh really? Does 2+2 still equal 4 these days too?